Punchdown Tool

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by electronewb, Jun 25, 2013.

  1. electronewb

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    Anybody here has any experience with punchdown tools for keystone jack termination? I have this tool http://www.amazon.com/Punch-Down-Impact-Blade-Cutter-HT-324B/dp/B001TPIX54 with the 110 blade using those keystone connectors from Belden http://www.mayflex.com/products/cop...6-unscreened-rj45-keystone-jack---mdvo-style/ Pretty simple concept to wire but my issue is no matter how hard I push on the tool the wires don't stay in place They kind of go inside the "clamp" but just a little bit of pull the the wire(s) comes off. Bad technique or wrong tool?
     
  2. Kermit2

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    The most likely cause would be incorrect wire gauge. Too small to be exact.

    What gauge wire are you using and do you have any one gauge number smaller?

    EX. if you are using 28 AWG, try 26 AWG
     
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  3. electronewb

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    Good question I don't have the cable with me I could let you know tomorrow. So basically the jack and the cable has to be a perfect match?
     
  4. tubeguy

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    And, is the wire solid or stranded ?
     
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  5. electronewb

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    Found a piece it's Belden Datatwist 2413 Solid strand
     
  6. Dr.killjoy

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    Damn your bringing back memories lol

    They use them on a 44 punch down block and others but they are like an impact tool almost like a automatic center punch but they have different head ... To me it sounds like it' malfunction or needs to be adjusted to right setting ..
     
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  7. electronewb

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    I actually traded the tool for another one from the store where I bought it but I haven't tried the new one yet. The new one is much harder to bring down way more resistance. The reason why I'm asking what could be wrong is I've watched maybe 5 videos on youtube and these guys were nailing those jacks with such ease meanwhile I have to put all my weight on it and I can remove the wire by just puling on it lightly .
     
  8. gerty

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    Is yours spring loaded? Does it make a 'click' when it bottoms out?
    It's an impact tool, the cheaper ones are not spring loaded and you have to smack'em with the palm of your hand. All of this providing you have the correct wire of course..
     
  9. tubeguy

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    As you suspect, it should be fairly straightforward.
    Please don't be offended, but are you aligning the blade parallel wiith the wire, and do you have the notch on the tool centered on the terminal slot?

    Even the simple non spring-loaded tools that come with many jacks require only a firm but not "all your weight " pressure to seat the wire. When the wire is seated properly it will be at the bottom of the terminal slot.
     
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  12. electronewb

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    I'm doing exactly what's on that video!!! Exact same sound too from the punchdown
     
  13. electronewb

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    Is there a way to remove wires from a keystone jack or when it's punched down it's over?
     
  14. Dr.killjoy

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    Small flat head screw driver or a pick or pliers..
     
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  15. tubeguy

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    If it still seems things aren't right, why not post a clear photo of one of the jacks with the wires attached.
     
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  16. electronewb

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    I will tomorrow for sure Thanks guys for the help
     
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