hello everyone...

iam a hobbyist in electronics.....
now iam turning towards the micro controllers...
i have done some programs for 89c51 with keil....and i need a programmer for the realtime applications....i dont have aprogrammer...


somebody said that AVR can be programmed with a simple circuit
http://electronics-diy.com/avr_programmer.php

i didnt find the ATMEGA8 in keil.....can u suggest a compiler for me...
and where can i download it freely??

Are there any other controllers which can be programmed easily??

Basically iam an electrical student and i dont the difference between PIC and AVR?

make me clear...

 

PIC and AVR are two different companies.. Like Ford and Chevy.

Each drives a different way and has different options. Choose the one that suits your needs.

AVR is built by a company called AMTEL

PIC is built by Microchip.

 

Atmel Links:
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_v2.asp?family_id=607

http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card_v2.asp?tool_id=2725

Free compiler WinAVR (full strength)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/winavr/files/

 

I would add that WINAVR is an add-in to AVRSTUDIO4 (also free from atmel's website) so you will need to install the free AVRSTUDIO4 onto your PC before installing WINAVR.

hgmjr

 

Thanks for u all...HGMJR, NANOVATE & RETCHED...

Ok fine about the answers and the links....
How about the programmer......for PIC.
Do i need to buy a special one or simply can i make it at home? like the link for AVR

http://electronics-diy.com/avr_programmer.php

Thankyou

 

Need a programmer for 8051? Try the silabs (http://[URL="http://www.silabs.com"]www.silabs.com[/URL]) 8051. Program downloadable through jtag. For evaluation, can buy the lower cost toolstickbase and toolstick daughter card.

 

Since you are a student I will highly recommend that use the same type MCU as your university. As it will give you a big advantage in homework and other projects

 

I found the atmega16/32 programmer
http://kartikmohta.com/wiki/Tech/ATmega16Programmer
and i have downloaded avrstudio4 too.
I have started the programming. Iam facing errors as few 8051 commands are not working here in AVR.

Can anybody send me a basic program links like LED blink.... working with i/o ports etc.,

I have decided to try with the AVR 16

 

Are you planning to write in Assembler or C-language?

hgmjr

 

How about the programmer......for PIC.

MPLAB ICD 3, It's $200, but it programs almost all PICs

 

Are you planning to write in Assembler or C-language?

hgmjr

C languauge... i dont know assembler....

 

C languauge... i dont know assembler....

That being the case, have you downloaded the WINAVR add-in for AVRSTUDIO4?

If not all you need to do is go to www.sourceforge.net and search for WINAVR and download the latest version. Yes, its free.

hgmjr

 

I have downloaded WINAVR and AVRSTUDIO4....

one more doubt....... do the ATMEGA8535 works with the software?
As i have the atmega8535 hardware right now at my work bench.....

Iam attaching the picture.....

If i get success in doing a simple program(blinking of one led), then i can go for the following project....

http://www.instructables.com/id/LED-Cube-4x4x4/

 

AVRSTUDIO4 and WINAVR both support developing code for the ATMEGA8535. I am not familiar with your programmer so I cannot say for certain. If you are using ponyprog as you programming software then you will probably be ok.

hgmjr

 

ok then...

can u send me a basic tutorial link for ponyprog.......
I want the very basic tutorial like how to dump the code using ponyprog...

 

I am sure there are several tutorials out there. Here is a link to but one. Google with keywords tutorial and ponyprog.

hgmjr

 

Hello I have seen some tutorials.....
here are some doubts.....

1. What is a "make file"?
2. Is it common for all the programming softwares like ponyprog, winavr..etc?
3. What is the difference between HEX file and MAKE FILE....
I have done a very few programs on 8051...i never saw such a make file...
4. How can i build such a make file with my basic knowledge?
I have one atmega16 and its programmer and ponyprog, winavr & avrstudio
too

see the links
http://kartikmohta.com/wiki/Tech/ATmega16Programmer

http://kartikmohta.com/tech/avr/programmer/Makefile.txt

 

A makefile is a set of instructions on how your various files should be compiled into 1.

This will explain everything. Well about makefiles, atleast.

http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html

 

A makefile is a set of instructions on how your various files should be compiled into 1.

This will explain everything. Well about makefiles, atleast.

http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html

Can i run a program without a make file??????