Problem with a MAX038 -how to test-?

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adam555

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Today I bought a MAX038 function generator, but after trying it with 3 different test circuits the IC doesn't seem to work properly.

For example, I tried it with the circuit below -which is one that comes in the datasheet- and the most I get is only a sort of a sine/saw wave of 200mVpp, offset +0.5V, and at a frequency much higher than what it should.

I also noticed that it doesn't work when you supply it exactly ±5V; it would only work from ±5.14V to ±5.35V and any tiny difference in supply voltage will have a huge effect on output amplitude and frequency.

I would appreciate if anyone could advice me on how to test the IC properly to make sure it's not damaged. Thanks.

 

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adam555

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By the way, what's the meaning of the round symbol on the output (pin 19 center-right of the diagram)
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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Data sheet schematics almost always work so check it carefully. The round thing represents coax cable out to a test probe.
2 supplies - plus and minus 5?
 

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adam555

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Data sheet schematics almost always work so check it carefully. The round thing represents coax cable out to a test probe.
2 supplies - plus and minus 5?
Thanks, I'm about to give it another try; just trying to figure out where I got it wrong the previous times.

Yesterday I measured the supply voltages, and they are fine +5V and -5V; as I said, it only seems to output something like a sine/saw wave from ±5.14V to ±5.35V, and the output varies a lot between those 2 voltages. I also measure the REF output from the IC (pin 1), and it also seems fine (2.5V)... but can't get a good output.
 

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adam555

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I have to say that I don't have much confidence in the seller. But for $10 I couldn't resist giving it a try.

Every other IC that I got from China through ebay worked perfectly well.
 
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adam555

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Sorry.

I don't have a dual power supply. So, when I need positive and negative voltages (e.g for op-amps, etc) I use I small splitter circuit (see attach) I made to achieve this from my single power supply.

Obviously, when you need ±5V, since the total voltage output from the power supply is split in two by this circuit, you need a total of +10V. But since this IC has an absolute maximum limit of ±6V, and I was so careful not to burn it, when I connected it I was looking at the power supply, which stated 5V. I also connected a multimeter to the power supply output, and was also reading the 5.14V and 5.34V mentioned above; thinking that I was supplying it the right voltages. But those voltages are the total before the split; so I was only supplying half of the voltage the IC really needed.

Resuming, just a silly mistake for not having a real dual supply.
 

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t06afre

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Ouch the splitter approach of yours is just asking for problems. Why not build your self another power supply. And then combine these two then you need a dual supply.
 

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adam555

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Ouch the splitter approach of yours is just asking for problems. Why not build your self another power supply. And then combine these two then you need a dual supply.
You're absolutely right: it only works when you need the exact same amount of current for both polarities; the greater the difference in current needed between positive and negative supply, the less reliable it becomes.

But since I just use it as a quick fix for testing op-amps, comparators and IC function generators, which usually need the same positive and negative current, it does the trick quite well.

I wouldn't use it for anything else than testing purposes; for example, I'm planning on making for the MAX038 its own dual supply from scratch; as soon as I decide which configuration I'm going to use... suggestions are more than welcome. :)
 

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adam555

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Hello,

You might want to have a look at the following project to create a virtual ground:
Project: CMV2A virtual ground circuit

Bertus
Thanks Bertus,

I was looking for a circuit like that to install permanently inside my power supply and add the possibility of dual output; rather than changing the whole design or building a new one from scratch.

The design I posted was quite convenient because I could build it with common components that I had at home; and didn't need to buy anything else. But as I said, it was no good to install permanently because it doesn't work well when the loads on the positive and the negative are different; though it works pretty well with differential amplifiers and function generator ICs.
 
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