Plasma Speaker Not Working

Discussion in 'The Projects Forum' started by magnet18, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. magnet18

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    As usual, nothing I do works.
    I'm trying to build a plasma speaker, got most of the construction done, but I can't get the thing to work. I honestly have no idea what might be wrong with it. I originally had one of the windings of the gate driver transformer wired backwards, so I fixed that and replaced the chip and FET's, still no dice.

    I don't really expect anyone to search through my circuit visually, but if there is anything that jumps out at you as being bad, please let me know.

    Heres the schematic
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    And heres a couple pics of the board, the lines running out should provide reference to orientation.

    Hopefully you see something simple jump out at you.
    Thanks
     
  2. Wendy

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    For a reality check put speakers where the low voltage coil is at. Unless I misread the circuit entirely shouldn't there be audio there?
     
  3. eblc1388

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    Same here. But that never bother me because I can usually make it works after correcting a few silly mistakes.

    Power off the circuit. Temporally threads and wraps about 10 turns of thin wire to the gate drive transformer and connects the ends to a DVM on AC voltage range.

    Power ON the circuit and check if you have got any reading on the meter.
     
  4. shortbus

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    I'm no kind of expert,so probably wrong. In another thread a month or two ago, it was talked about using heavily insulated wire, like the wire on your gate drive transformer instead of magnet wire. The gist of the thread was the capacitance that was a by product of the heavy insulation. Is it possible that the extra capacitance in your transformer is enough to throw off the circuit?

    In circuits like switching power supplies and the like the never use anything but magnet wire for the coils.
     
  5. blueroomelectronics

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    You're missing caps on the regulator. They're not optional.
     
  6. Kermit2

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    It might have found another place to form the arc.

    Power it up in a room where you can turn off the lights and have total darkness. You might be able to see a glow coming from somewhere around the transformer. Maybe under a wrap of insulation on the coil.

    Assuming of course the circuit is working. :)
     
  7. magnet18

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    Thanks for the assistance guys, but I eventually gave up on this design, along with about 3 other's since then, and I just ripped the 555 portion off of a flashing light circuit and it works to create an arc. I should be able to bump it up to ultra-sonic tomorrow and audio-modulate it with a cap on pin 5.
     
  8. akthewayiam

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    Well there is a simple solution,just separate the ic power supply ie the regulator's one and the mosfet power supply including separating both the grounds.It worked for me with the same corcuit as of yours.:D
     
  9. Wendy

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    This thread is pretty old. He got it working and mentions it on another thread.
     
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