people search / information databases ?

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  1. Mathematics!

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    Does anybody know how sites like these get your information like name , address's lived at , age ,...etc
    http://www.peoplefinders.com/
    http://www.usa-people-search.com/

    The DMV say's they don't give info out to anybody
    And I have a friend that is a police officer and he said they can only lookup the info not modify or give out the info in the DMV and courts.
    I have another relative that works in the hospital and say's medical records cann't be given out and are kept private.

    I don't believe Social security agencies can give out this info either.

    I don't vote or take the census so the only people I narrow it down to is post office , or rent/estate/insurance companies or credit card companies.

    Maybe it is the town hall or post office whoever makes the yearly phone books maybe but this is my best guess.

    Could even be from IRS tax records but I don't think they give out info and I think they keep info private.
    Even so I was in these "people search" databases when I was in high school or college if I remember correctly and that would be before I had a credit card or paid tax's.


    Curious if anybody knows how they get all this info on a person in the US.
     
  2. Brownout

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    Can't speak for these particular ones, but I do know some sites get information from it's users. For example, some of the "family tree" sites have a long information entry for anyone who wants to search for relatives. All the informaiton entered by the user becomes part of the database. Pretty cool, eh? get your customers to provide their own product. Now why didn't I think of that?
     
  3. Georacer

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    I also think that banks, telephone companies, even pizza stores can sell any data collected concerning you to advertizing companies or elsewhere.
     
  4. Mathematics!

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    If that is true Georacer than how does these people search sites have your previous address's / phone numbers , age . criminal , background check ,..etc
    I never give out this much information to anybody ?

    Also what are companies like telephone company , post office , websites ,...etc allowed to give out. Wouldn't it just be name , age , address , email address , phone number....
    If so then why does these sites have a **** ton of other info on a person?

    Tell me their not giving out SSN , medical , criminal and other private info... I would think that would be illegal.

    I know when I move I have to fill out (change of address) / notify all the companies like post office , DMV , ...etc separately
    since their is no universal way to notify all the companies at the same time. I would think it would work the same way around
    and that the people search databases would have a hard time to piece thru information at all the different companies linked to a person.
     
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  5. Brownout

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    When supermarkets give you a card to swipe at the store, they build databases on you, which they can sell to anyone they want. I refuse to use those, even if it means I save money. I shop at places that don't reqire them
     
  6. Wendy

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    Detectives can buy licenses, don't know if that is true of all 50 states though.
     
  7. maxpower097

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    All that info is available for purchase from data miners, and they can get it anywhere, even your local county clerk. Its scary how much info some of these sites have. I was trying to find a girl I had lost contact with. With in 5 minutes. I had a phone number, full name, address, even a picture of her house with her car in front. Freaking scary if I were a hot chick. Datamining is big biz and just because they say they don't give out your info, there are loopholes.We live in a digital age at a time when anythings for sale. I used to do it for a medical company.
     
  8. Brownout

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    HAHA! I've tried to find information on myself, and am happy to report my information is scarce on the internet. Probably because I don't get suckered in by the schemes that are set up to collect my information.
     
  9. Mathematics!

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    What do you mean buy licenses... licenses that allow them the authority to get this info from DMV , post office ,...etc
    Or your actual license that has your S number ,...etc info on it.

    This is pretty stupid info sharing other then the basic name , address age , number
    Since any other information like pin , ssn , s number ,...etc should be kept private.
    The whole security of the nation hinges on this stuff.
    And then US wonders why ID theft is so common.

    Not to mention the social networks like facebook,...etc if your not careful with what you put on the internet.

    But all things equal I have never really even used credit cards , or internet sites where they have you type in info on where you live ,age ,...etc all that much and before that they had all my address's data of birth...

    Medical and criminal is scary if you can get that out on the internet (other then if you where a sex offender that is) I don't think any of this stuff should be out theor for anybody.
    And the people involved in giving out this information should go to jail.

    Are you saying you worked at a medical place that gave out info?
    And super markets on their forms never get info other then name , address , birth day , maybe email address... no previous address's or other stuff...etc so I would be hard pressed from that that people search database could gather all the rest.

    What are the legal loop holes involved on making this ok? Any lawyers out their
     
  10. Brownout

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    Mathematics, do you use any of the so-called "loyalty cards" that you swipe at stores to get a discount? Are you a member of any "gold clubs" or any service that allows you premium service for filling out an application? Anytime you apply for any kind of service, you take a risk of having your information distributed. Just a word to the wise!
     
  11. Mathematics!

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    No

    Correct in that information like name , age , current address , maybe email/phone number are given out. ( even when you do a change of address the companies probably just add the new address to the people search database,...etc I see how that works now)

    My problem is with the sharing of more personal/private info like distributing ssn , criminal , medical , photo id's.

    Their should be no way other then at the hospital to allow only your doctors to see your medical record.
    And only law enforcement/courts/lawyers to see your criminal record. (ofcourse in the rare occasion of a sex offender or serial killer / what ever giving info on where he is living and what he did to some extent to protect the families living around him. would be ok... but any other case is usually never ok)

    Also I have never done a background check personally on an employ (always had the HR guy do it for me) Curious what info you can get from a background check on an employ...
    Do you get if he comitted a crime , criminal records , medical records , what info in general?
     
  12. maxpower097

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    You can't buy a PI license. You have to take a class and pass a test.Then pay the fee for your license. But much like concealed weapons permits each states different. But they do have alliances between states. Like a FL weapons permits good in FL, GA, TX , TN and like 4-5 other states.
     
  13. Mathematics!

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    And these PI certifications gives them the right to medical , criminal ,...info

    That seems to easy anybody smart could pass a test like this.... what is stopping the smart
    bad guy from the smart good guy that will keep info confidential?

    Also how are they able to get criminal / medical info ?

    Question 2
    What does a background/criminal check on an employ usually allow you to see about the person?
     
  14. maxpower097

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    No a PI license just allows you to legally stalk someone.
     
  15. Wendy

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    I'm pretty sure of what I speak. Perhaps not in every state, but if you have a license you can pay the fees for the extra. It only pays for the DMV, but still.
     
  16. maxpower097

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    Yes your right bill, a process server has the same rights. They can get pobox addresses too. There are various gov places PI's and people like process servers have access too. But many of the private data companies have better data for sale for anyone with a license or not. Background checks for everyone is the new big thing. Going on a date, run a background and credit check.
     
  17. Mathematics!

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    Ok , I was also wondering when a job / HR guy runs a background/criminal check.
    To what extent of information can they find out .

    Like do these background / criminal checks also have your previous address lived at , medical history ,..other info like property owned , phone numbers ,...etc

    Just curious on what extent normal background check / criminal checks that HR employees do when hiring a person.

    Anybody have an made up example of the structure of these checks and the typical info it can contain
     
  18. strantor

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    The banks flagrantly distribute your info, especially if you start falling behind on payments; you will start getting letters for debt consolidation companies who mysteriously know exactly how much you are in debt for, to the dollar. They send out letters ever so often with fine print that basically says "This is the info we give out about you; this is what you can't do about it; and, no, we won't tell you who we give it to" - Here's an example:
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    I should bank with these guys; the last notice I got had "YES" in every column.

    In addition to that, with everything being online these days, a digital paper trail is generated with every account you create, bills you pay, credit cards you sign up for, magazine subscriptions, etc. These "people finder" sites probably find a source of info on you, scan it & extract more info, use that info to search more sources of info, scan & extract from those sources, and then compile it all on one page to appear as if this one website actually knows all this info about you (which now it does).

    regarding what's in a background check, from wikipedia:
     
  19. Mathematics!

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    Ok , I see so these site piece together info from companies that share your info and their is nothing you can do about it....

    So really everybody is traceable.

    Unless of course you where to issue a new social security number , name , and birth certificate.... (by fbi or us marshells for wittness protection)
    Thus destroying all your credit , work history , medical records , and things you own,...etc.
    Because all of that would be with your old ssn , name , ...etc still unless updated.

    I see how it all works now (well at least the big picture.)

    And changing your social security number is almost impossible for you to do.... you would need some condition where their was a conflict between your ssn and a family member , wittness protection ,..etc so rare that if you asked them they wouldn't probably change it.


    As for the background check cool so thats another reason never lie to an HR guy :) They will know your work history already ,...etc

    Also I am wondering you mentioned that independent bank usually markets your personal info to other companies. (which I think you should have the right to say you don't want this done under some privacy law)
    Is their any banks that are private that you could use that didn't give out your personal info / market it to the world. (perhaps and off shore account if not a private?)
     
  20. maxpower097

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    And it depends on the background check. If they run a proper governement FBI background check yes everything comes out. Even when you got the charges dismissed or were found innocent. Other companies do this for cheaper and have less info.
     
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