OR4 is no more!

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  1. tracecom

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  2. nsaspook

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    We all have to die.
     
  3. GopherT

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    I prefer not to die at the hands of a rifleman hovering overhead in a helicopter.

    Granted, the whole timberwolf/gray wolf story is a long and controversial one across all of the northern states.
     
  4. nsaspook

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    He could have died slowly in great pain as he was pretty old. An expert from the ODFW ended their lives quickly.
    http://dfw.state.or.us/news/2016/03_march/033116.asp
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/odfw/sets/72157623481759903/
     
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  5. JoeJester

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    I recommend you do NOT attempt to rustle some cattle in the western states.

    I know whenever I traveled down the road and a coyote was seen, typically they were running flat out, because they were always under the gun. Alot of pickups had gun racks with weapons where I was ... including mine.
     
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  6. GopherT

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    I've lived in a few states where a Ford F150 without a gun rack is a special order. I know what you mean.
     
  7. tcmtech

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    Would you prefer to die in the hidden room under my shop over a period of weeks or more where I laugh maniacally as I toss hungry angry kitties down at you at random intervals? o_O
     
  8. GopherT

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    A few more reasons not to live in NoDak again.
     
  9. tcmtech

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    The kitties thing put it over the top didn't it? :oops:
     
  10. GopherT

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    I've been afraid of your avatar for a long time. Let's start with that.
     
  11. Hypatia's Protege

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    For all that - a violent death is, as a rule, far kinder than a natural one!!!:eek::(

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  12. GopherT

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    It depends. I've witnessed several natural deaths. Some slip away quietly and some more labored and painful in the last days/hours. A wolf in the wild will usually go out with some glory - look for another pack to rumble with. It isn't slow. The wolf in post #1 was part of a lone pack (only pack to cross a river) so he may have gone out slowly.

    http://www.wolfsongnews.org/news/Alaska_current_events_3015.html
     
  13. Robin Mitchell

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    I used to have livestock. Answer is to make strong and secure fencing (min 5ft high). That way nothing gets in and there is never a need to go and kill other animals who where feeding.
     
  14. nsaspook

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    This is open pasture in the high desert. Not many fences to keep in or out wild game or predators.
    https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5343942,-118.3415941,293942m/data=!3m1!1e3
     
  15. Robin Mitchell

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    Well better put some fencing in then.
     
  16. GopherT

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    That would raise the price of beef, cause people to eat less beef, get healthier, need less Lipitor, cause Healthcare companies to be less profitable, cause my Vanguard Health Care mutual fund in my retirement plan to grow at a less rapid rate, causing me to have to work longer before I retire (and at the same time causing me to live longer as a result of eating less beef and furthering my need to work longer to pay for my additional time as a retiree).

    So, if you haven't figured it out already, That is a crazy idea!
     
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  17. Wendy

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    It has to do with amount of land. There are ranches in the USA it takes over a day to drive across. These are vast open spaces.
     
  18. nsaspook

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    This is a better option.
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    @GopherT

    Haha, funny thing is that I dont eat beef (neither does my family). The reason was logical at the time but not anymore: Ever since there where outbreaks of CJD mum became phobic of beef and ever since has avoided ALL beef products (including gelatine).

    In the UK, DEFRA has a very specific policy for this type of incident (for example if someones dog gets into your field and eats your chicken). People must control their animals and not let them get into farm areas and livestock areas but at the same time those who are responsible for the farm areas must ensure adequate protection so that animals cannot get in.

    So for example, you are withing your rights to take out a fox or dog if they are eating your chickens but if you dont have fencing you can face jail time for killing the attacking animal.
     
  20. Robin Mitchell

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    @Wendy

    That is not a good enough reasons. Plus no animal needs THAT amount of roaming space. Here in the UK we have sheep and cows, they seem to cope with what they have and their areas are all fenced. Plus in these ranches they could make....smaller areas!
     
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