# Op amps

Discussion in 'Homework Help' started by joka2188, Nov 20, 2006.

1. ### joka2188 Thread Starter New Member

Nov 10, 2006
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Iv just had a go at three questions, which are in the attachment, can anyone please tell me if my answers are correct so i could go back and figure out where to go from there. Thanks for all your help, much apprieciated.

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2. ### JoeJester AAC Fanatic!

Apr 26, 2005
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You might want to show your work. It will help the members provide the proper guidance.

3. ### joka2188 Thread Starter New Member

Nov 10, 2006
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I done most of it on scrap, so ima have to get the equations again and do them and then hopefully if i get the same answers il post them up if not ima b scratchin my head in stress lol thnks anyway

4. ### Dave Retired Moderator

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Can you scan the work on the scrap paper? You will then be able to upload the scanned image as a Jpeg.

Dave

5. ### richbrune Senior Member

Oct 28, 2005
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The LED current is not correct, here's a clue:

The op-amp configuration shown is called a comparator. Whenever the positive input (pin 1) is at a higher voltage then the negative input (pin 2), the op amp output will swing to theoretical 12v (actual about 11.5v). When the voltage at the positive input (pin 3) is at a LOWER, voltage then the negative input, the op amp output will swing to theoretical 0 volts.
Calculate the voltage at the inputs as follows:
Vpositive input = (R4/R3+R4)*12
Vnegative input = (R2/R2+R2)*12
Next you must do the following calculation for current, if the op amp is "on":
(12v-1.2v)/1000 (where 1.2 volts is the forward voltage drop of the LED)
or this, if the op amp is "off" (or any voltage less than the 1.2v of the LED turn on voltage):
0v) 0/1000=0 (no current)
Please note that the bottom example question is also a "trick" question:
U1's input has positive feedback. Any positive signal applied to the negative input will cause the output to increase, which will in turn feed back into the positive input, causing DEVICE DESTRUCTION.

6. ### pebe AAC Fanatic!

Oct 11, 2004
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The last question has been dealt with in another thread.

It looks like the first circuit has been as carelessly put together as is the last one. The circuit is of a comparitor, but no value is given for R2 and no details are given of the op-amp output characteristics.

7. ### richbrune Senior Member

Oct 28, 2005
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The value of R2 is imbedded in the drawing it's hard to see, but I think it's 1Kohm.

8. ### Dave Retired Moderator

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Right you are richbrune R2 is 1kOhm, if you zoom the page in Word it becomes moderately clearer.

Dave