New to programming need lots of help please

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  1. jacko

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    Hi all
    i trying to make a program that will count up by 1 and down by 1 useing a a push button and a 8 pin pic when i want to know what the score is i push another button and the unit vibrates with short for + and long vibration for - any help would be gratefull or if anyone can do this for me what price would you charge?
    the device would be classed has a card counting device.
    Hope someone can help.:confused:
     
  2. thatoneguy

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    So a +1 switch, a -1 switch, a 'output total switch'.. Once a reset to zero was added, there is one output left for score.

    Power requirements? This going to be like something to stick in your shoe and wear to Vegas like in the movies?
     
  3. jacko

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    hi the thatoneguy
    yes you right thats what iam after
    power supply no more than 3v
    Thanks
     
  4. thatoneguy

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    The count concept is pretty straightforward and would run on the surface mount 12F6xx or 873 devices. The only hard part would be form of output.

    Unsure of counting method you use. IIRC 9+ cards are +1, and <=8 being -1, then knowing a positive or negative number. Watch how much of the rack has been dealt,and you have a rough idea, but when using 7 decks and usually burning 1.5, it's not totally reliable.

    Would you only want to be alerted if the count is positive?

    BTW: Doesn't this break laws in Vegas? I'm not much of a gambler.
     
  5. jacko

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    Useing a device in a vegas casino is breaking the law but not in the uk were iam from, the selling of such devices is not illegal,
    iam looking for the program to send out a signal via vibrating motor, short bursts for + and longer brusts for - i dont know much about programing iam more into design curciut boards.
    the program must keep a running count of the cards.
    Hope this helps
     
  6. beenthere

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    Perhaps you could give a reasoned argument as to why we should assist you in this project? And why it is too much trouble for you to learn programming for a project that is important to you?
     
  7. maxpower097

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    Because he's asking?
     
  8. thatoneguy

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    The theory of it can be discussed, however, he may work for a Vagas casino to see how easy it is to get a "helper/trainer machine", or a Vegas gambler with a UK proxy. Anybody that can make a PIC run a color changing LED can write the program discussed above. The actual I/O devices (switches/vibrating motor, wiring) and power fitting in a small area is the "hard part".

    Either way, Personally, as I am in the US, it could be construed as aiding and abetting a crime in Nevada if they wanted to be picky about it. I know there are videos on UTube about the topic. I have nothing to do with them, either, other than knowledge of their existence.
     
  9. thingmaker3

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    Entirely insufficient.

    He's asking for help on a project which could be used to immoral purpose (cheating at a gentleman's game). Prior to deciding whether we will assist, we might like to know his specific purpose and intent. Is it for a contest among peers designing such machines? Or is it for less savory purpose?
     
  10. maxpower097

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    Sorry I'm just not used to thinking of casino's as legitimate businesses. They also made a card counting program for the iphone you can buy on itunes, so I don't think its as illegal as people suspect. May be it is in Nevada but who cares, I don't even like the desert. Yoyo fishing rigs are illegal lots of places but completely legal in LA.
     
  11. thatoneguy

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    With the iPhone application, it is fairly obvious that a device is in use. The orignal post is looking for something entirely concealed.

    Those who would like to get involved with such a design are apparently free to do so.

    I stated the theory, and the reason I wouldn't assist. This does not mean others cannot help. If that were so, this thread would be locked.

    There's always the "Tom Cruise Option": Find a mathematical Autistic Savant to hang out with on your trip. :D
     
  12. jacko

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    Hi All again

    I just need the program, the desgin has been taken care of thats my input
    I do not work for any casino in the usa like i said iam british, if you dont belive thats up to you iam not breaking any laws in the uk, and the progmmer will not be breaking any laws in the usa because it will not be used in the usa and there for not part of usa laws.
     
  13. beenthere

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    Do recall that these are public forums, and it is very hard to imagine a person won't use this device in a manner that is only concerned with personal gain. Including allowing some other party to do the work.

    If you're really motivated, learn to write code.
     
  14. maxpower097

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    Honestly I don't even know if its illegal in the US. I know it is in Nevada but I think it will go state by state like my yoyo fishing rig example. Morally I don't see anything wrong with it, but I also think all casino's should be closed down for moral reasons. The fact is they sell an addictive service that ruins as many lives as the drug trade.
     
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