Need to drop voltage, requesting assistance with the calculation

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  1. jellytot

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    May 20, 2014
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    Ahhhgh, my voltage regulator is overheating. After considering several different options (including switching power adapters), I've decided to drop the voltage a little before it gets fed into the regulator. I need help with one of the steps:
    R = V / I, Where :
    R = Resistance in Ohms
    V = Force in Volts
    I = Current in Amps
    Let's say my wall adapter outputs 12V. I'm going to drop it to 10V, so V=10 in the equation above.

    My questions:
    1. I'm stuck on I (current). For this value, do I use the "normal" current draw of the project (approx 1 amp), or the max rating of the power adapter (2 amp), or the "spike" rating (3.5 amp). Explanation of "spike": Note that the project at intervals draws 3.5A, but for extremely short periods (milliseconds).
    2. When I use a resistor to drop the voltage going into the voltage regulator, will that also drop (decrease?) the current going into the voltage regulator? If so, how do I calculate this drop?
    Thanks!
     
  2. thumb2

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    Oct 4, 2015
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    Your voltage regulator is overheating (power dissipation) because the load current is high enough to make it warm...
    If you put a regulator with maximum output current greater than the load current, the best solution is to put an appropriate heat-sink.

    BTW if you want to drop the voltage 2 V, Ohm's law says R = (Vi - Vo)/I.
     
  3. dannyf

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    You cannot, because it is possible within thee confines of your topology.

    There is no solution as long as your current aoproag stays.
     
  4. GopherT

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    If you are using a 5V regulator and a 12V supply, you need to waste 7V at your nominal of 1 amp (7 W). Yes, some peaks.

    So, you want to get the input of the regulator down closer to 7.5V (a regulator needs some head-space). So, at 1 amp, dropping 4.5V you need a 5.5ohm resistor. Since those are rare, you can use a big (5 to 10 watt) 4.7 ohm resistor or, you can put 3 of those very common 10 ohm resistors in parallel to get 3.3 ohms. All should be good.

    Also, add a heat sink to the regulator - it helps more than you would think m
     
  5. crutschow

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    V in the equation is 2V, not 10V.
    If you want the regulator input voltage to be 10V @ 1A then R would be (12-10) / 1A = 2Ω and the resistor would dissipate 2W (use a 3W or higher power resistor).
    But if you draw more than 1A, the voltage will drop below 10V.
    The short 3.5A spike could be handled by a large capacitor on the regulator output.

    What is the output voltage of your regulator?
     
  6. thumb2

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    Well, a schematic would be very useful :rolleyes:
     
  7. jellytot

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    May 20, 2014
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    Hello all, thanks so far for the comments. So here are some details:
    • 12V power adapter, feeding into a 5V regulator. I can't switch to a lower power adapter; some components require 12V (they draw power before the 5V regulator). I tried a 9V adapter and sure enough, those components don't work.
    • Yep. I've got the "best" heat sink on my voltage regulator. By "best", I mean it's got the lowest Thermal Resistance @ Natural I could get, for the space I have available. I even tried "hacking" the heat sink to maximize heat dispersion for it's orientation. I may try another "hack" later.
    • RE: "V in the equation is 2V, not 10V" - thanks for that! I was using an example I got off the net, and misread the instructions.
    • RE: "But if you draw more than 1A, the voltage will drop below 10V." - noted. Thank you! The voltage regulator should be able to handle that, but I'll double check the specs. Plus, if I draw more current and the voltage drops, there's the added benefit of less heat from the regulator.
     
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