need help of transformation theorems (urgent)

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  1. holybrings

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    can any1 help me about transformation theorems?
    how to find the i in the circuit of the doc?
     
  2. hgmjr

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    Can you be more specific?

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  3. holybrings

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    i had attached a doc which contain the question i want to ask...thx
     
  4. hgmjr

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    The current source has no label indicating a value. Is that on purpose?

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    sry that miss out the current...this question didnt label any voltage
     
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    This is a fairly straightforward problem involving Ohm's Law. Can you show us what you have done so far and where you are stuck?

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    i just start learning only. I tried many ways to find the i but cant. Forgot another thing, the question need to find v at the 4A VDCS.
     
  8. hgmjr

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    OK.

    Taking this a step at a time.

    1. You have the infomation you need to compute the voltage across the 6 ohm resistor in terms of the current i. (Ohm's Law)

    2. You should also know that the voltage across the 6 Ohm and 2 Ohm resistor is the same.

    3. With the info from 1 and 2 above you should be able to write an equation that has the sum of the currents in each of the three legs of circuit and set it equal to the total current available from the current source.

    If I give you any more information I will have done the work for you and that is not fair to you the student.

    See what you can do with the hints provided and post your work here.

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  9. holybrings

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    thanks for the tips. I'll try to do it ^^
     
  10. holybrings

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    voltage cross 6 ohm is equal to 6i right?
     
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    3. With the info from 1 and 2 above you should be able to write an equation that has the sum of the currents in each of the three legs of circuit and set it equal to the total current available from the current source.
    (this i dont understand. Im a slow learner)
     
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    6i is correct for the voltage across the 6 ohm resistor.

    Another HINT: The voltage across the 2 ohm resistor is the same as the voltage across the 6 ohm resistor so you should be able to write the expression of the current flowing in the 2 ohm resistor on that basis.

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    the 2ohm is it 12i ?
     
  14. hgmjr

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    You need to take a second look at that answer.

    Remember you have the voltage of 6i and a resistance of 2 so apply Ohm's Law as you would with any known voltage and resistance to find the current.

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    V=IR, so I=6i/2 so, is 3i correct?
     
  16. hgmjr

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    You got it!

    Now you have the current in the three legs of the circuit expressed in i.

    Sum them all together and set them equal to the input current of 4 amps and solve for i.

    Note the sign of the dependent current source as you set up your equation.

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  17. holybrings

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    4A=3i+2i+6i
    4A=11i
    i=0.364A
    right?
     
  18. hgmjr

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    Nope. Not quite there yet.

    Your getting the currents and voltages confused. That is understandable though.

    The current in the 6 ohm resistor is i, right? The current in the 2 ohm resistor is 3i, right? The current in the dependent current source is -2i since it is flowing in the opposite direction of the other currents in your circuit.

    With this in mind, take another shot at the calculation.

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  19. holybrings

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    oops...forgot the direction...should be i=0.57.
     
  20. hgmjr

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    Nope, You are so close though.

    Remember that the sum of the current in each of the 3 legs must add up to the 4A that is being delivered to the circuit from the current source.

    You have all three currents at hand. All you need to do is write the equation with the 3 currents (expressed in terms of i) and set that equal to the 4 amps and solve for i.

    hgmjr

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