Need help modifying 555 output

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I suppose I should clarify what I meant then.

I'm not concerned with what happens after disconnect. I am concerned with the output attempting to send a signal to the lock actuator every time the sensor crosses the 5v threshold.
You already made that clear. I'm working on it. It's called a lock-out or a latch-out. That kind of circuit will only keep the circuit from sending a second pulse until you disconnect the power. After you disconnect the power, the circuit can't send a second pulse because it doesn't have any power.
 

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duck36

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I see where the confusion is coming from now. When I say "lock actuator", I am referring to a physical locking mechanism to prevent opening something, not an electronic component.
 

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I don't think I'm confused. You keep saying the same thing: Threshold = pulse, and stop. Refuse to start until power has been stopped and re-started.
 

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It's coming along. Feel free to put this in MS Paint and build an idea, tracecom.

Electric door locks sound pretty strong, so I'm going to give it a relay...right after I look at the datasheet and remind myself how a 555 works. How about you go see if you can find a single comparator?
I'm going to put a start-up delay on the reset pin so it doesn't get hinky when it gets plugged in.
 

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#12

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and about 40 milliseconds on the comparator input to make sure the threshold setting gets up to voltage before any noise can trigger the comparator.
 

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duck36

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I wish I knew how you can build diagrams like that from scratch. It's pretty impressive.

So, it looks like, so far, that this can be done with only a comparator and 555 (with various resistors and capacitors of course)?
 

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Thanks. I think pin6 (strobe) grounded (3ma) = open collector. True?
We could use that for a latch out. I'm using the 555 reset to guarantee no start up glitches, but we could also ground it to force out = low.

Trigger (2) has to be at 2/3 Vcc before the reset pin goes high. Calculating timing sequence...
Not calculating. Trigger is already 470 times as fast as the reset. I'll assume it works.
 
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#12

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Coming along. As it builds, I think the strobe is the right place to put the latch-out. What do you say, tracecom?
Can you find me an SCR with a hold current of less than 3ma?
 

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I think this is about it, give or take some values.
I was asking if you personally know that grounding the strobe will force an open collector.
Oh...you think so. I guess we'll have to try this if we can get the right SCR.
 

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I think this is about it, give or take some values.
I was asking if you personally know that grounding the strobe will force an open collector.
Oh...you think so. I guess we'll have to try this if we can get the right SCR.
No, I don't know; will need to look at the datasheet.

Wow. Just noticed that this is my 2,000th post. Of course, that's nothing if you have over 5k.
 
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