need diagram for LED Police lights

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  1. kads

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    Hello, I have a little electronics knowledge but not enough to make a LED police light system for a RC car, and would really appreciate some help from a pro....what Im looking for is a diagram & parts list to create the following which will run off the car battery 7.2 volt 4500 - 6800 mah Ni-Mh..... 12 x 10mm LEDS (high brightness) 4 x white 4 x Red 4 X Blue...
    group 1 = 2 x white, 4 x Red LEDS
    group 2 = 2 x White, 4 x Blue LEDS

    group 1 flashes strobe effect , say 3 times per second
    then 1/2 second after
    group 2 flashes strobe effect , say 3 times per second
    then 1/2 second after
    back to group 1 ....this pattern is continuous

    I will put a small switch on the power lead.

    I hope my instructions are easily understood, and really would appreciate
    any advise and help I can get...

    thankyou. !!
     
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  3. kads

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    thanks Bertus, but like I said, I am very limited in electronics knowledge and I dont understand all of those pics, I can work out some of it, but unsure about some too...my memory has to go back to school days...lol
     
  4. Wendy

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    No problem, but you will have to relearn them old skills.

    Check these out...

    The 555 Projects

    Meant specially for beginners, they are very diagramed out.

    The AAC text book whose chapter are on top of this page are also meant to teach.

    The project closest to what you want to do is 555 Hysteretic Oscillator . I can also help design specialty circuits if asked nicely.
     
  6. kads

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    thanks Bill, I m having trouble understanding it, I might go to my local electronics store and see if they can build it for me, I know this might sound strange but if the diagram was drawn like a photo of the pcb I could just copy it, but being a schematic diagram it just dosent make sense....
     
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  8. kads

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    i had a look at the 555 hysteretic oscillator and I understand everything except the numbers on the chip...I take it that the numbers are the legs..??...are the legs numbered from 1 ,2,3,4,,5 etc.etc clockwise..???
     
  9. kads

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    OH WOW...thats better, I can see it really clearly...thats how all diagrams should be...LOL...(high power led flasher)
     
  10. kads

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    but I still need 12 LEDS in the circuit.!!
     
  11. kads

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    the reason why I still need 12 LEDS is beacuse that is the lighting configeration for the australian unmarked police cars....2 white for headlights..1 red/blue grill, 1 red/blue windscreen, 1 red/blue each side of back window, 2 whites reverse lights.

    I have found someone in USA that can build them for me $40 + $20 postage...I would love to be able to make them myself for $10.....so Mr Marsden , I would love for you to help me and make a "EASY" to follow diagram , I would even pay you ...name your price......thankyou
     
  12. Wendy

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    Tell you what, I'll do it, but no price. You asked nicely.

    Review this thead, and come up with a layout on your car similar to the one in this thread.

    http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/showthread.php?t=17499

    If you can understand the pattern you want it would help (simple alternate lights are OK). The one shown in the above thread are double flashing lights under the grill and alternate on the top.

    I'll also need the battery voltage.
     
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  13. kads

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    oh thankyou sooo much Bill...you are a champion...Im using a 7.2 volt 6800mah Ni-mh battery...I looked at those pics and Im not too sure about how to make my light set up look like that on a pattern....but basically I will be running 12 bright LEDS.........

    Group 1 = 2 x white , 4 x Red
    group 2 = 2 x white, 4 x blue

    Group 1 are to flash 3 times per second
    then 1/2 second gap
    group 2 are to flash 3 times per second
    then 1/2 second gap

    this is continuous....

    as long as they flash like that, I can just position them in the correct spots on the car via wires.....I hope you understand my uneducated electrical mind...lol...I'll put a small switch on the power lead.

    thankyou very kindly.
     
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  14. kads

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    Here is a picture of what I would like....thankyou Bill.
     
  15. Wendy

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    What part of the world are you in? This will affect the parts I recommend. Some parts are harder to get than others.

    You might think about buying a protoboard similar to what I show in the 555 projects series. It will let you check designs out before you apply solder, which is a plus.

    If you're not inclined don't worry about it. The other component you will need early in this process is a breadboard, the little circuit boards you will be using to build them on. This is so I can draw it, and use it in the documentation. You can use either 2 555s or one 556 (which is two 555's in one package). Let me know which you want to use early too. I would also recommend getting a matching IC socket too.
     
  16. kads

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    I live in Australia, I will use what ever parts you recommend...thanks Bill
     
  17. Wendy

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    I haven't forgotten you. I've been playing around with the concept. Here's where I am at the moment. I'm likely to scrap this one, but it brings up a point.

    [​IMG]

    The transistors Q3 and Q4 would be much better as logic level nMOSFETs. I need to know if you can get them.

    CMOS 556 and a CMOS 555 is another part that would be nice to know if they are available in your area. If not I can adjust, but I need to know before I continue drawing.

    The exact part numbers are not critical, if they match the verbal descriptions I gave above (CMOS 556, CMOS 555, and logic level nMOSFET) they would probably work.
     
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  18. Wendy

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    While I was about it I put designators on your diagram (which is very useful BTW). This will match to the LEDs in the schematic. You will need to learn enough to wire them in since the LEDs will have to have wires going to them from the PCB, no way around it. Since LEDs are polarity sensitive you going to have to learn which is + and - (or in electronics terms, anode and cathode). You can use two different colors of wire to keep track of them in the car.

    The AAC text book has a section on LEDs here. Just scroll down until you find the section labeled LEDs. The illustrations should have all the information you need.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. kads

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    Hi Bill, how are you.?....Ok , I will find out about whether my electronics store stocks
    CMOS 556, CMOS 555, and logic level nMOSFET.....tomorrow is a public holiday here (Anzac Day) so shops are closed, but Tuesday I will find out and I shall let you know Tuesday Night.
    Regarding polarity of LED's, I have a vague idea, but I shall check the link you gave me and study up.
    I really appreciate your time and help Bill, I sincerely do.
    you have a great day, and I shall get back to you in 2 days time.

    thanks mate.
     
  20. kads

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    Hi Bill, I spoke to the electronics shop...they have cmos 555 & cmos 556, but as for the logic level nMOFSET, they dont have them....If the nMOFSET is needed I can phone a few more electronics supplies in the city.
    thanks Bill

    PS - this is the website for my local electronics shop, maybe you could take a browse through their online catalogue and see if there is anything that matches nMOFSET, or any other parts we need.
    www.jaycar.com.au
     
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