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Mathematics!

Joined Jul 21, 2008
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Even if you can do the work of 10 different people in 10 different areas at the same pace and with as good if not better quality. The only stipulation for them to let you take breaks ever so often (i.e a 6 month / 1 year off every 2 to 5 years )


If not then maybe it would be best in trying to stop looking for a company to work for and just work for my self.

Maybe your right the only way is to be self hired ... but the reason why I posted this thread is to find out as many options/possibilities before I take up this responsibility of starting my own business with my own products / advertisement.
If self employed is the only option then it is the only option but I want to know this for sure. (leaving out gambling , stock market or other risk thing to get money)
 

1chance

Joined Nov 26, 2011
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Even if you have your own company there is a lot of repetition and drudgery involved such as recordkeeping, paying taxes, advertising, and customer support to name but a few. And there are still deadlines. Operating your own business is not for the whimsical or undisciplined. It takes a very structured person who is willing to put the customer base ahead of your own desires such as time off. I don't mean to offend, but you seem to be a bit of a Peter Pan and I wouldn't recommend this venture to you. I operate the type of business that you dream of and it is very hard work and time consuming.
 

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Mathematics!

Joined Jul 21, 2008
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may, I ask what business you operate.
And are you hire somebody like me to do alot of stuff. Provided I changed the way I am ...
About having to understand everything and take breaks ... and shift to more customer comes first and long hours don't matter so much for me attitude.

The only thing I would require is a little choice on what I can work on. And the ability to do different types of things. And a reasonable time off regiment here and their.

And I agree with you at this point in my life I am more interested in learning , growing , inventing , do alot of cool things ,...etc and not so much wanting to get mixed up in opening my own business.

I agree with you "I am a bit peter pan'ish" but this is only because I don't want to do the repeated repetition things that opening up a business entails ... like book keeping ,...etc
Maybe later at some point I would want to do this but not now.

Which is why I wanted to find a company that fits my needs.. (those are ability to do alot of different cool things , flex hours meaning as long as you get the work done on time you can do the work at any time , nice work environment with people are will to work together and not against )
 

joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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Mathematics, no offense, but from reading your posts it sounds like you are more interested in time off than actually working.

This is not a good attitude to have if you really want a job, and *want to keep it*, especially in today's job market.

Unless you do go it alone, remember this: you'll be getting a paycheck to do whatever your boss tells you to do when he tells you to do it. This is part of the deal...you work, he pays you.

Usually, one hires another because there is a particular task to be done. No one is going to give you such great latitude as to let you sit around and blue-sky all day, at least not until you have proven yourself *and* the job entails blue-skying. And part of proving yourself is to complete the task or tasks at hand. Jumping from one task to the next whenever you get bored is *not* a valuable attribute that potential employers are looking for!

Even if you go it on your own, you'll still have a boss: your customers and/or clients. Someone once told me that quality is getting what one wants when he wants it. You either provide quality to your customers/clients, or they will not want your products/services anymore.

If you really want to dabble around the edges of life, fine. Get a night shift at McDonald's to pay your expenses. Use the day to fulfill whatever lights your fancy at any particular moment.
 

GetDeviceInfo

Joined Jun 7, 2009
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I doubt you'll find an employer that will hand you any part of your 'fantasy', sounds to me like you'll have to go out and create it yourself. Besides, wouldn't that prove your true genius? I'm sure that if you went out and created the new Google/facebook/twitter, that then someone would pay you to do what ever you wanted to do.
 

loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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What about our think tank,no dreams..we might trip over something.

@GetDeviceInfo , AnSir is trying to get thru your fire walls to contact

you now,your phone and cell phone are Alerting now with "AnSir" your

e-mail is saying you have mail,we have the permits. Someone from

Twitter will tell you that you being called or other sign on services.

Think big. Every one hated the automated machines,they got permits.

I am stakeing out online audio as a online service,you now have words,

pictues, I'm not sure Skypes lock on audio or if its advertised as face to

face. A global service to reach you,to give a personal alert,a new tone.

Who would you like to alert and get a replie,maybe sponsors would pay

to make it work.2/12/2012-"AnSir Alert" all rights reserved.

If I want to get attention Fed-X air, Why not" AnSir"-alert to talk.
 
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joeyd999

Joined Jun 6, 2011
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What about our think tank,no dreams..we might trip over something.

@GetDeviceInfo , AnSir is trying to get thru your fire walls to contact

you now,your phone and cell phone are Alerting now with "AnSir" your

e-mail is saying you have mail,we have the permits. Someone from

Twitter will tell you that you being called or other sign on services.

Think big. Every one hated the automated machines,they got permits.

If I want to get attention Fed-X air, Why not" AnSir"-alert to talk.
Please, loosewire, could you try standard English for a change? I don't understand this particular dialect of whatever language it is that you speak... :D
 

loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
1,686
Its one of my many new words,I would let Internet sponsors (ads)to

let me use "AnSir" Alert to contact you now. I would ask you if you can

see the steeple out of your office window. "AnSir" Alert is a new

name and concept.
 

praondevou

Joined Jul 9, 2011
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There are engineering companies that only do custom projects. Developing, prototyping, programming...
I never worked for one of them but I guess if you prove to be a genius, many different tasks could be assigned to you, after a certain time.

However you must understand that you always start small and as your employer has more and more confidence in you you will gain more and more freedom.

Maybe you could find yourself a job in an R&D center of some company (as I did). We have enough freedom to bring in our own ideas.

On the other hand, if you are as good as you say in so many different areas it may be kind of hard to find THE job.

Don't forget, many people know how to do a lot of different things but they are specialists in only one or two areas. That's the one they work in, if they are lucky.

You need to find something that you really like, it then will never get boring.

And I would say, forget about taking off a few months every other year. If you have a job then it's because your employer needs you.
 

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Mathematics!

Joined Jul 21, 2008
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I hear you.

My problem is not inventing something new that will/ has a high chance of being a hit like facebook , or google ,...etc

My problem is funding , I don't want to take out loans or owe people money or go broke...
My biggest fear would be that my product crashes and I cann't find a job...
In that case I starve.


Plus I have some issues personally that deters some of what my potential could be.... which is I get deathly afraid in social situations , fear of make decisions that their is no logical optimal solution or easy reverse-able method to correct my decisions, have a little depression as well.

I don't believe in taking drugs to correct these issues so I some how have to work thru them... if I can conquering this problems ... then I would say I wouldn't have any problems in starting a company , or getting hired by a company with the skills I have....

conquering depression = maybe able to find what truely makes me happy work wise /life wise
conquering social anxiety = being able to do great with HR / job interviews and public speaking
conquering ability to make decision that / fear of change issues = being able to make quick choices , travel , be more not concerned about if this the right decision (just go with it) , beable to learn to correct issues and social problems ,...etc

Those three major problems are holding me back problem is I know psychology and a psychologist would be little help other then prescribing stuff ... (which I am a firm believer in no-medication only in life or death situations...)

So I sort of either have to figure out away to compensate or fix these issues .... or live like a hermit crab .
Sucks for my owe how I wish I was just normal.... being very very smart has it disadvantages to.... And going by the normal density/Gaussian curve it is better to be in the average or alittle above average , even a little below average is ok..... But the extremes usually poses a problem...
Sucks for my ... ironic everybody wants to be very very smart but people don't understand it comes with down falls like anything else


Ya, some day I may invent something that revolutionizes the world but I wish more important to be happy and no fear or at least normal fear...

Those 3 issues lead to a fear of responsibility partly problem 3 does this to me.
 
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justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
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It sounds like you need to evaluate your priorities a little bit. If you are as smart as you describe, academic route may be not a bad one as you will be paid to conduct research of your choice. Usually almost free reign is given to people who can prove their potential. You can also collaborate with other departments so that you are not always "stuck" in one area. As far as conventional jobs go, my own plan is to get something agreeable and use my free time for my own enjoyment.
 

MrChips

Joined Oct 2, 2009
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Man, you have to pull yourself together. You have to start believing in yourself, not what you hope to accomplish in the future by inventing something grand. There is nothing wrong with being an outlier (one who does not fit under the bell curve). This is what makes you unique.

You may very well have qualities that are rare to find.

You need to build confidence and leadership skills.

Go to:

http://www.toastmasters.org/

and search for a Toastmasters club in your town. Go visit a few clubs this week and join one pronto. You will not regret it.
 

justtrying

Joined Mar 9, 2011
439
Sounds to me like someone thats never held a real job. A professional student type. :)
I didn't want to say that as I am myself pretty close to being one ;) It takes a bit of guts and self-assessment to leave school and possibly a few attempts to find the one area that interests you more than others. This is how I ended up studying electronics, never thought I would, never took interest in it before, but with current advances in technology it might allow me to combine my interests in natural sciences and the fact that I like to fiddle around with things. Since the posts are quite general, the reply can only be general as well.

Mathematics!, taking the last post into consideration, have you considered an academic route in your area in order to justify the "professional student" status by making it into a career?
 

GetDeviceInfo

Joined Jun 7, 2009
2,196
I battled cyclic depression when I was younger. Seemed every 2 or 3 years I'd slip into a 6 month depression. At the age of about 34 I spent some time in the hospital recovering from pnuemonia. The drug package was horrific, but after that I never had the depression again. I suspect it was some physical depression of my respitory system.
 

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Mathematics!

Joined Jul 21, 2008
1,036
GetDeviceInfo I am sorry you had to go thru that....
I am not willing to take drugs long term but if it came down to it and their was no side affects and I only had to take it once or twice to clear it completely up.
Then that would be a different story and in that case I would probably do it.

But other then that I have to naturally concur my fears... the only way I know about it is little by little trying to put myself in these tough situations for my and then analysis why I get nervous or cann't make a decision ,...etc and see if I can break that chain over time.

As for the teacher/professor/researcher I have thought about it and I may do that but right now I am not in a place that has teaching positions available in the subjects or areas I would like to be in. ( and the last resort is to move right now , not really willing to do that right now)

I guess my biggest problems are concurring my fears first then the rest I don't see as being a challenge for me after that.
 
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loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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You must want to correct or deal with some of these issues or you would

not be talking about them. There are some saying' like there someone out

there for everyone. If you notice someone that is in a wheel chair and can only

move there eyes,some one is pushing them to where they have to go and maybe

giving care,things happen at church,I don't go every sunday,only when I need

to. You have to buy your tags if you drive,talk to the drive-thru person. If you

have a phone,it must ring...so you are part of the same society we all belong

too.
 
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