Japans waste hits N. America's coast.

loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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That is only the stuff we can see,the high currents may have another story.

We must be protected from information that we should know,somewhere in a

some science journal ,they are reporting things that the news don't it important

enough to share with us. I watch the B.B.C.,you get more news that is reliable.

Guys across the pond,do you thing you get better news from U.S. is that the way

it works,you get better news from the outside news sources.
 
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loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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Don,t you think of pirates in your dreams of sailing around the world.

You know they have documented the 100 ft waves to be true after

being reported all these years and ignored.
 

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maxpower097

Joined Feb 20, 2009
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Hell its floating and survived the tsunami. I'd ditch my sail boat and upgrade to a cargo ship. That sucka has offshore casino written all over it. And figure it floated across the ocean in storms and everything else with no power. Quite amazing the boat isn't at the bottom of the pacific. I'm impressed. With any boat high seas with no motor is a death sentence.
 

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maxpower097

Joined Feb 20, 2009
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The Supreme Court is hearing a case where

a guy wanted to use his boat as a home.
Isn't that SOP? Houseboats, Sailboats, cabin cruisers. Millions of people live on boats. I went to school with a whole family that lived in sail boats. The parents had one and the kids lived in the other.
 

loosewire

Joined Apr 25, 2008
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Thing are changing all around you, you don,t what will be next.

That why people are edgey about things. You don't know what

to look forward too.
 

spinnaker

Joined Oct 29, 2009
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Dereclicts of any size are always a concern. As a seaman I find that fishing boat adrift in high seas, frightening. Even with a radar on...
I understand containers and logs are the worst. They float just below the surface and you don't see them till you hit them.

Just one of the many things killing by dream of sailing around the world. The worst of it being all of the problems with violence in so many parts of the world today. It is getting harder and harder to find safe passage or a safe port in many part of the world.
 

atferrari

Joined Jan 6, 2004
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I understand containers and logs are the worst. They float just below the surface and you don't see them till you hit them.
I see you think of small and me of big crafts, but yes, danger is there.

Once, I was on duty the time we approached the Vancouver area proceeding from Japan, many years ago. Logs everywhere!

Impossible to issue a general warning (it is compulsory for derelicts, amognst other things) because it is illusory to expect anyone, little time after you tell they are somewhere, to locate them precisely enough to avoid them. Visual detection is the sole chance.

In ice areas, like Antartica (been there for two Summer campaigns) the "growlers" are also dangerous in night time. Radar won't catch them at all.

Next you perceive is the hit on the hull. Called as such because the crackling noise they make and you hear when they are close enough...and too late to avoid.

Containers in good condition have their doors naturally sealed by the rubber gaskets. They can float for long time, sometimes not raising much above the surface.

Once, just leaving Rio de Janeiro we lost in a sudden incredible balance, two 20 footers and two 40 footers stowed on deck. After returning to port to restow displaced cargo in the tweendecks, we heard the story about one of the containers full of OSRAM lamps duly celebrated when arrived to the coast nearby.

Never in history that area was so well illuminated.

Just one of the many things killing by dream of sailing around the world. The worst of it being all of the problems with violence in so many parts of the world today. It is getting harder and harder to find safe passage or a safe port in many part of the world.
Nowadays, regret to tell you that for me it is enough to leave my appartment. Immediately I ask myself: will I reach my home tonight?

Had my share of robbery on board by people that boarded our vessel when anchored somewhere in Far East and also South America.

And then you have vessels...and gales. Oh God!
 

strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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As a former submariner, I've been inside one of these semi-floating turds like logs & containers that are not visible to other craft. We don't transmit radar & we don't transmit on the AIS system, so we basically have the mindset of motorcyclists - assume that nobody can see you, and assume that everybody who looks like they are going in a safe direction will make a last minute choice to maneuver and try to run you over. Even that doesn't keep us safe. 2 guys I went to submarine school with were onboard the USS Newport News when it was ran over by a giant tanker. Neither were hurt, but the submarine was diced in the front by the tanker's screw. It looked like billy mays' slap chop got ahold of it.
 

strantor

Joined Oct 3, 2010
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Does anybody watch doomsday preppers? There was this guy on the most recent episode who was obviously a brain-toasted stoner and he kept talking about radioactive fallout from fukushima tainting all the produce in America. He was showing his seed collections, like 11,000 kinds of seeds in his freezer. he built tents in his back yard & said it would be safer than being in his house, so he moved from the house to the back yard. Then he brought out the HHO generator and showed how you can melt an aluminum can with it, and how that would be so helpful if nuclear fallout was all around. I LOL'd at that guy.
 
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