Intravenous drip monitoring system

Discussion in 'The Projects Forum' started by Aisha.Raj, Feb 3, 2014.

  1. Aisha.Raj

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    Using an ir led - photodiode assembly to Chk the falling of saline drips , I want to do ambient compensation since I am nt enclosing the set up ... I am using instrumentation amplifier if for this, my frequency is very low from around mHz to around 2 hz.... What ic can give me a externally controlled gain frm say 10 - 300 and high cmrr to reject the ambient light ...
     
  2. pwdixon

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    If this is a question about eliminating ambient light from an IR sensor why not use a IR filtered sensor in the first place?
     
  3. R!f@@

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    IR sensor should have a filter to eliminate ambient light
     
  4. DickCappels

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    Try the Analog Devices AD8132. You would need a second photodetector to sense the ambinet, and then carefully adjust the level of the ambient sensor to cancel the ambient falling on the drip detector. Personally, I think that if it works, it will be tricky to maintain cancellation over an extended period of time or under varying ambient conditions. If you are doing this as a commercial project and are serious about finding a good solution, you might consider using a high frequency modulator using a regular square wave signal or a pseudo noise generator to drive and LED to illuminate the drips and a high pass filter and detector or synchronous demodulator to pull the "drip" signal out of the signal + noise. With such an approach you can achieve dramatic S/N ratios.

    Of course, pwdixon's suggestion of using an IR filter should be tried first because depending upon your "receiver" circuit and the kind and amount of ambient noise, that might be all you need.
     
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  5. wayneh

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    Every little bit of mechanical solution here would go a LONG way. It may be impractical to eliminate all ambient light but it wouldn't be hard to cut it by, say 5X or so. That would be a 5X gain in signal:noise ratio and that would make the electronics SO much easier.
     
  6. wayneh

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    Ooh, I was assuming this was already in place. Maybe a bad assumption. It's the state-of-the-art solution and should be a part of this project.
     
  7. Aisha.Raj

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    Tk you for your help guys.
    I am not using a filtered source , as one of the major constrainsts is to reduce the cost of the component - I assume a filtered source is gonna be of a much higher cost when compared to a normal IR Led .
     
  8. R!f@@

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    get an IR filter from a broken remote control
     
  9. KMoffett

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    The real-world IV drop detectors use IR filters and honeycomb collimators on both the emitter and detector.

    Ken
     
  10. Bernard

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    The source does not need filtering, just the detector. If a wider detector window is needed, You could use 5 surface mount photo transistors covering 5 mm with outputs connected to a 8 input OR gate. Worked with a separation of 50 cm to count drops.
     
  11. pwdixon

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    Just buy an IR sensor they almost all have the plastic IR filter these days, in fact I think it's pretty much impossible to get one without it.
     
  12. Bernard

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    By IR sensor, does it mean: IR Receiver, IR Photo Module. or IR Receiver Module ? Which all require burst type modulation which might not work with drop detection. High frequency continuous modulation or no modulation might be best. I found no difference at close distances, say 1 ft. The 5 photo-transistors are Everlight PT91-21C, 860 nm. clear lens with an IR pass filter and IR emitter from a remote control.
     
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