# Induction machine torque.

Discussion in 'Homework Help' started by Ledwardz, Jan 3, 2012.

1. ### Ledwardz Thread Starter Member

Oct 31, 2010
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Hi, im a little stuck on a past exam paper question, (see the attached file). When looking at the speed torque graph in my notes the maximum torque peak is alway at 0.2 slip and this starting torque is obviously at slip = 1 hence i substituted these values in but can't help feel like i am missing something else. I have hand a look at the equivalent circuit but meh... i can't see how he has derived the expression for torque

all i can get is 60Protor / 2*pi*Ns
which was derived from Pmechanical / rotor speed in rad/s
and Protor = current^2*(R2/s)

anyways, any help much appreciated, thanks, Lee.

2. ### Ledwardz Thread Starter Member

Oct 31, 2010
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here is the question

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3. ### t_n_k AAC Fanatic!

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Your image isn't very clear. In any case the max torque would occur at
$s=\frac{R_2}{X_2}$

4. ### Ledwardz Thread Starter Member

Oct 31, 2010
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can you explain how you derived that? i assume R2 is the effective rotor resistance i.e. the load and X2 the reactance of the rotor winding. but why divide them? how does that give the maximum torque? I assume its something to do with R2/s = X2 ??

also the question is

T = 3E2^2R2S / $\omega$s (R2^2 + SX2^2)

and i'm asked to derive expressions for maximum torque and starting torque.

thanks for the help!

5. ### t_n_k AAC Fanatic!

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If you differentiate the given torque equation with respect to the slip 'S' and equate the result to zero you will derive the slip condition for either the maximum (or minimum ?) torque case. It's an application of basic calculus.

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6. ### Ledwardz Thread Starter Member

Oct 31, 2010
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that is very very very very clever. you sir are genius. Thanks alot.