IGBT driving with PIC

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jean120

Joined Jan 24, 2016
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Hello,could you please advise me on how I can fully drive an IGBT for a three phase bridge circuit?
I am making a three phase induction motor control circuit and this has to provide the required voltage to the terminals of an induction motor three phase.
I am applying 45V DC at the three phase bridge and the voltage at the terminal is 11VAC,could you please let me know how I can advance and provide more output than what I have now ,you understand very well that if I input 440VDC the output should be around 100VAC which is not enough and also the IR21362 which I am suing as IGBT driver is becoming very hot,what can I do,
The IGBT I am using is IRG4PC50FD
at 5KHZ and the quartz is of 20MHZ the bootstrap capacitors are of 22uF/50V.

Please advise.
 

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jean120

Joined Jan 24, 2016
75
It is not possible for me to provide the circuit because the proteus I am using doesn`t have the IR21362 as a package so I can`t draw the schematics.

Please help.
 

JohnInTX

Joined Jun 26, 2012
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Have you looked into the wealth of information available from Microchip - application notes, technical briefs, datasheets etc?
http://www.microchip.com/design-centers/motor-control-and-drive

It is not possible for me to provide the circuit because the proteus I am using doesn`t have the IR21362 as a package so I can`t draw the schematics.
That is kind of immaterial to the actual need for a schematic. How about a pencil and paper sketch? Take a clear picture of it and post it using 'upload a file'.
 
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ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
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Hello,could you please advise me on how I can fully drive an IGBT for a three phase bridge circuit?
I am making a three phase induction motor control circuit and this has to provide the required voltage to the terminals of an induction motor three phase.
I am applying 45V DC at the three phase bridge and the voltage at the terminal is 11VAC,could you please let me know how I can advance and provide more output than what I have now ,you understand very well that if I input 440VDC the output should be around 100VAC which is not enough and also the IR21362 which I am suing as IGBT driver is becoming very hot,what can I do,
The IGBT I am using is IRG4PC50FD
at 5KHZ and the quartz is of 20MHZ the bootstrap capacitors are of 22uF/50V.

Please advise.
An IGBT is basically a hybrid Sziklai pair - a regular MOSFET with a PNP emitter follower hanging from the drain - generally speaking, driving with a MCU requires a logic level part just the same as if it was just a MOSFET. Standard MOSFET drive chips should usually mean you can use regular MOSFETS (and IGBTs).

IGBTs were developed as a solution to the high RDSon with the MOSFETs of the day, but the PNP emitter follower output makes them slow. There are modern MOSFETs with RDSon low enough to compete with IGBTs.
 

Papabravo

Joined Feb 24, 2006
21,225
I see a part with a threshold voltage of 3-6 Volts, so controlling it directly with the processor is out of the question. It will take more voltage to turn the device on completely. It also has an asymmetrical turn on/turn off characteristic, which means you need to pay attention to the transition times to avoid excessive power dissipation while the gate is being discharged. the usual way to do this is with a current source/sink. A logic level input driver chip is recommended.
 

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jean120

Joined Jan 24, 2016
75
Hello,here is the circuit for three phase induction motor control using IR21362 and PIC18F46K22,with this implementation the IGBT driver is becoming very hot at 5KHZ but the motor shaft tends to move only the voltage is very low around 11VAC on the motor terminals,at 20KHZ as switching frequency the Driver is not reacting at all,the IRG4PC50FD operate at 1 to 5KHZ.
Please find in attachment the schematic I used.
 

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Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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Why are you using such a high switching frequency?
Your connections for the ITRIP and VSS pins of the driver IC bear little resemblance to the 'typical connection' shown in the IC datasheet. Where is your current sense resistor?
Shouldn't VSS be at or very near ground potential?
 
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Alec_t

Joined Sep 17, 2013
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1) Make sure you have the IR21362 wired correctly (see the datasheet). See post #8.
2) Try a driving frequency of ~1kHz or less. But to get a 3-phase motor started won't you have to ramp up the frequency from a much lower value?
3) Read this and follow the advice.
 

ian field

Joined Oct 27, 2012
6,536
1) Make sure you have the IR21362 wired correctly (see the datasheet). See post #8.
2) Try a driving frequency of ~1kHz or less. But to get a 3-phase motor started won't you have to ramp up the frequency from a much lower value?
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When I did servicing, I've seen SMPSU IGBTs driven at about 50kHz - but at that frequency, they lost most of their advantages over MOSFETs. Failure due to switching losses and excessive dissipation weren't exactly rare.

15 - 20kHz is a reasonable frequency for IGBTs - but PWM motor drive probably doesn't need more than a few hundred Hz.
 
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