Guys, this snipping will cease and desist immediately.

Just on this thread? Or forum-wide? If the latter, no promises.

 

Moderators will handle it on a case by case basis, but we really need to bring civility back. It is starting to spill over to beginners, and has been a subject of discussion amongst the moderating staff.

 

The gov't doesn't produce value. It just moves money from the productive to the non-productive.

I've tried to explain this to a socialist, but it was like talking to a fire hydrant.

 

This link will help you understand the Shop Hourly Rate and where labor plays it's part.

Hopefully the budding business owner can recognize some value in this break even calculation.

 

This thread has detriorated into pointless political rhetoric - again. Seriously, what is the point? Even the TS has given up on it and that takes some doing. Closed. Apologies to those who actually tried to provide useful answers to the question.