how measure watt of lighting LED

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  1. sendbad

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    HI
    i have White lighting LED 3,7 volt 75lm

    but Unknown wattag

    how can i know wattag of thes led
     
  2. Dodgydave

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    put 3.7V across it and measure the current.
     
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  3. mcgyvr

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    How do you know the Vf and how do you know the lumen output? Did you measure them?
    Without a datasheet/part number/spec it would either be trial/error (aka run it at some current and measure the temps) or possibly measuring the physical size of the LED and comparing to others..

    Post a picture of this LED..
    In general "wattage" really isn't a number you need to know.. Vf and max current rating are the real numbers to use.. With that you can calculate the "wattage".. But IMO "wattage" really isn't a number you need to know to use an LED at all..
     
  4. MCU88

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    And...

    Wattage = (3.7VDC x Imeasure)

    Imeasure is the current that you read on your multimeter.
     
  5. sendbad

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    i put it with battry 3.7 v 4.8ma it work for ,30h then lighting drop dawn
     
  6. sendbad

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    vf and lm Printed in Base of it
     
  7. BobTPH

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    No, it is 17.7 mW. And if you are getting 70 Lumens from 17.7 mW you have the worlds most efficient LED.

    Bob
     
  8. sendbad

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    how Calculat it
     
  9. MCU88

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    lol gawd you actually pulled an calculator out and did it?
     
  10. sendbad

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    so for 70 lumens what suitable waat
     
  11. BobTPH

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    On the order of 1W.

    Bob
     
  12. sendbad

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    so with battry 3.7v 4 ah it work for 12 second
    no it work for .3h
     
  13. BobTPH

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    1W at 3.7V is 270mA or 0.27 A. A 4AH battery should last about 14H at 1W.

    Bob
     
  14. sendbad

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    Direct connection with the battery without resistance work for .3 h
     
  15. djsfantasi

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    And why did it stop working? Was the battery dead? Was it a new battery when you started your test? Or without a resistor, was the LED dead?
     
  16. sendbad

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    without a resistor battery discharg after ,3h and led not dead
     
  17. djsfantasi

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    Note I asked about the resistor because connecting an LED without one is a sure way to destroy the LED. There are some very specific exceptions, but generally an LED requires a current limiting resistor.

    Did you make your measurements at the points illustrated in the picture below?
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    Is this how you got your measurements of 3.7 VDC and 4.8 mA?
    Ignore the two AA batteries... I just used them to represent your battery. (What are you using for a battery?)

    @BobTPH, where are you getting on the order of 1 W? If we are to trust the OP figures (!), your original calculation seems right to me.

    There is so much conflicting /extraneous information here and little hard facts. We need to know
    • What is the LED
    • What is its forward voltage
    • What is its rated current
    • What is the power source
    • How are the measurements being taken.
    • Forgot about the lumens
     
  18. BobTPH

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    The 1W comes from that fact the state of the lighting LEDs produce about 60 to 100 lm / watt. If the LED produces 70 lm, it is somewhere on the order of 1W.

    Bob
     
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  19. djsfantasi

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    Hence my conclusion that there is conflicting information. From the data given, there are two widely divergent, yet plausible, answers to how much current is being used...
     
  20. BobTPH

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    Yes, there are two conflicts, power used vs lumen output.
    And current used vs battery life.

    Bob
     
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