How can quantum theory explain the Existence?

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  1. socratus

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    How can quantum theory explain the Existence?
    Postulate - 1
    Physical theory without reference frame is a parody of theory.
    Postulate – 2
    Quantum particle without geometrical form is a parody of Nature.
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  2. socratus

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    Euclid needed his postulates to create *geometry*.
    Einstein needed his postulates to explain SRT.
    In quantum theory we don't have reference frame and quantum
    particle is only *a mathematical point* therefore we cannot
    understand the reality of micro-world.
    To limit misunderstanding I took these two postulates.
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  3. t_n_k

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    A quantum of self.... "I think. Therefore I exist"
     
  4. socratus

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    If I said: "an elephant fought with a whale", you would laugh.
    You know they live in two different reference frames and never can meet.
    Of course, there are animals that can live in these two RF, but you know "why".
    Now you can read that "big bang" doesn't have RF.
    Quantum theory doesn't have RF too.
    Then, about what knowledge are we talking?

    To study behavior of an elephant you must know what savanna is.
    To study behavior of a whale you must know what ocean is.
    To study behavior of “ quantum virtual particles” you must know what Vacuum is.

    Without to know what vacuum is we have parody of knowledge.
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  5. socratus

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    A quantum particle of self....
    .. .. .. has inner /own "spin" (h and h*)
    Nobody knows if "spin" is a real action.
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  6. Metalmann

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    Quantum is all theory; therefore, it doesn't exist.:D

    Hows about that?
     
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  7. Metalmann

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    I have yet to see proof of any "Big Bang".;)
     
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  8. Kermit2

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    Our understanding to date of how this universe began says it was very small. The equivalent of a point source. A singularity.

    Our understanding of how a star collapses into a black hole ends with gravity collapsing matter into a point source. A singularity.

    So...

    Is our universe a black hole in another higher universe?

    I say yes. My theory is as good as any other. None can be proved yet.

    And really, at this point, what does it really matter anyway? (thanks Hillary)
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  9. socratus

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    Every "singularity" and every "black hole" needs reference frame.
    Today neither a quantum micro-world (singularity) and nor a
    cosmic macro-world ( big bang or black hole) has RF.
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  10. russ_hensel

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    "the Existence"

    What makes you think that is the point of the theory?

    Your posts do not really make much sense, they seem to be trying to imitate some
    sort of geometric proof format, does not really lead to a very meaningful discussion
    or illumination of physics.

    Just my opinion, others may disagree.
     
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  11. Alec_t

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    To determine whether quantum theory can account for existence you would first have to show that a quantum can exist. Chicken and egg?
     
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  12. Wendy

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    There is not enough information,but people are spending their lives to gather the same. Thus technology advances faster and faster, which strongly suggests to me they are not wasting their time. Perhaps you are focusing you time on asking the wrong questions, when the data becomes available they will get answered, though you may not like the answers. You are trying to generate answers we can't answer yet, and trying to treat them as facts. This is dogma, not science.
     
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  13. rc3po

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    <snip>............
     
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    Here is a 2-hour presentation "Aeons before the Big Bang" by Sir Roger Penrose given May 20, 2010 at the Copernicus Center for Interdisciplinary Studies in Krakow, Poland.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YYWUIxGdl4
     
  16. rc3po

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    Snip?
    Are you describing your brain function, or what?
     
  17. MrChips

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    @rc3po

    Discussion of religion is prohibited on All About Circuits.

    Please consider this a warning.
     
  18. Metalmann

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    The "Big Bang", is just another in the long list of things; that mankind will never know about.
     
  19. rc3po

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    Really? Never is a long time.
    Mankind used to say that the earth was flat...
     
  20. socratus

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    . . . . in a zero (0) time was singular point . . . . then. . big bang . . .
    . . . . . matter (!) and photons (!) flied away in different directions . . . . . . . . .
    . . . . . photons flied with constant speed c=1 and
    . . . . . matter flied with smaller speed c < 1 . . . . . .
    . . . . .where they will be at " the first 100 sec. of the Universe."? . . ..
    . . . about what interaction between photon and matter can be talking ? . . . .
    . . . . where did thephotons come from? . . . . . .
    . . . where did the matter for singular point come from? . . . . . .
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