High voltage power supply - need help

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  1. diaboliqu69

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    Hi, this is my first post on this forum.
    I`ve got a flyback transformer from an very old TV and Also 2x 2N3055 transistors and tried to identify the wires after http://lifters.online.fr/lifters/labhvps/tht.htm tutorial and I did not at all. I don`t know why...maybe I have messed something, please look at the pictures and help me

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    Did this TV work, before you removed this transformer?

    Are you sure it isnt dead?
     
  3. diaboliqu69

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    i don`t know if TV was working....it was a very old TV , i need to make a high voltage power supply from flyback for other experiments.
     
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    I understand your desire to have a HV power supply. If you followed the directions on the lifter page (That you linked to), and you had no result, the transformer is dead.

    Being new to the forum, I have no idea of your experience level and what you would and would not understand. Have you done any lower voltage experiments? Or is this a learning experience to get into electronics?
     
  5. diaboliqu69

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    These is my first experiments in electronics .... i`ve used before a multimeter, i know some basics but this is all
     
  6. t06afre

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    This is not some newbie stuff. I will recommend that get some more experience before you start doing such things. That is for your own safety.
     
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    Ok, good to see an interest.

    I just want to warn you about the DEFINITE LETHAL potentials involved with these projects. Using materials this old could have failed or failing insulators, so you want to be sure to use NEW wire that is RATED for the voltages and currents you will be involved with.

    t06afre is right, this is a high level experiment. It will kill you if you mess up. ZERO mistakes.

    Ok, now thats out of the way, is there any experiment in particular you want the flyback for? Or were you trying to make a power supply for all of your bench work?
     
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    I will be very cautious, I am aware of fatal danger, I `m trying to make the power supply for my work bench
     
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    No friend, you dont need high voltage to make a tesla coil. A tesla coil MAKES high voltage.
    You can make a tesla coil with a 12v motor.

    Ill read the link.
     
  12. diaboliqu69

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    please tell me more about or give me some links but still I need to make the driver for that flyback transformer
     
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    Ok. I have just stopped reading the link.

    Don't waste your time. Read the law of energy conservation:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy

    You cant make energy. Only convert it. There is no free lunch.

    Have fun. AND DONT GIVE ANY OF THOSE SCAM ARTISTS A DIME.
    You first need a operational flyback transormer. Find one in a color TV or monitor. B/W wont be good.
     
  14. diaboliqu69

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    If you start reading you will see that they say same thing what you`ve said ... energy can`t be created needer destroyed ... they don`t create energy from nothing I assure you they converse a kind of energy with it`s called "Zero point energy" which appear on quantic mechanic manuals also and was discovered by Nicola Tesla, the man who you are grateful and do not know for AC power, the CFL bulbs, the electric motor, the dynamo for radio waves and another 695 inventions.... but please stick to the topic i really want do that flyback work


    I think that my flyback transformer it`s from a BB/W TV .... please tell me why this is`nt good
     
  15. t06afre

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    Oh about the "zero point energy" That is just something the energy scammers have read some place. They liked the word and its relation to quantum mechanical physics. Then they tweaked it meaning to fit their own nonsense theory. Here you can read about it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy You can not take a small amount of energy and use to make more energy. Do not waste your time and money on some HH0 project or similar like the Orbo scam. There is no such thing as free energy. Wind, solar and waterfall energy are renewable energy sources. Powered by the sun. But the sun is burning up as speak, and will at some time die. Not in mine time although ;)
     
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    You haven't the knowledge to do this safely. You already expressed the flaw of not following up what you read.

    You NEED to read the zero-point info a lot deeper and not just from your 1 source. It has been turned into a sales pitch. These types of things do not work over traditional conductors because any power increase is lost to heat.

    You have to LEARN this. Don't believe what 'ONE' website, person, text file, newspaper, or anything says. You must back it up.

    At the quantom level, from atom to atom things are different. You are not restricted by the "real worlds" laws of physics. If you have the ability to preform such experiments, such as very low temperature superconductors, you cant see such reactions.

    And obviously, you cant produce enough power to run the refrigeration equiptment and the power boosting devices to run them on there own.

    To answer your queston. Color and B/W flybacks are pined and wired differently.

    The b/w you are using has not been "exercised" in many years... probably decades,
    so the enamel on the magnet wire has most likely deteriorated to the point of causing mid-coil shorts, rendering them a useless FIRE hazard. Even if you manage to get a decent reading with the 9v battery, when real power is added, it will vibrate itself to destruction causing a high-voltage short and a very dangerous and deadly stew.

    If you are going to chase this scheme, old components WONT do. You need the highest effiency parts available. Any heat is lost power. Any rust or corrosion or oxidization is lost efficiancy.

    You will need to spend REAL money to realize that any gain will NOT pay for itself.

    But, if that is the only way you will learn, I reccomend doing it. Just DONT PAY THE SCAMMERS.

    Things like this can be done in extremely controlled, microscopic environments, for nanoseconds at a time.

    If results are not reproducible by EVERYONE, they are not results.
     
  17. diaboliqu69

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    I`m already sorry i`ve put that link before .... sorry... i`m seeying here so inteligent people .... for you Tesla and other are just nuts man and it comes to free energy... also original maxwell equations .... just garbage ..... those man and their work was good until reaching certain point like zero point energy then they are just nuts.... or maybe you think that way because you`ve been educated so .... mmmm maybe you need to try experiment in free energy and then questions will come for shure for you too about what you`ve learned at school ....
    Just google: Prof. Dr.-Ing. Konstantin Meyl ; Dr. Bearden ; Dr. Harold Aspden ; Dr. Peter Lindemann ; T. H. Moray ; TESLA ! and many others .... are you shuure are you smarter than them ?

    Please I don`t wanna talk more about "free energy" , I just want make the flyback work... could someone help me with that ?
     
  18. kingdano

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    i would strongly suggest that you do not make this your first electronics experiment. this is very dangerous - even for experienced engineers/technicians/hobbyists.

    please, if you want a power supply, buy one.

    if you want to learn about flybacks, use a SPICE simulator like LTSpice to model one.

    do not try to learn about them by building one - one wrong connection or wrong touch can kill you.
     
  19. diaboliqu69

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    retched, i don pay any scammer .... http://www.free-energy-info.com/ it`s just indexing others work ... they don`t sell nothing they just give the information ... also now I`m reading some verry inteligent man lifework witch also don`t sell anything... some of them don`t live anymore....and about the special environment you`ve said ... you are speaking about other experiment not what i intend to do, tesla also does`nt had those environments when it discovered radiant energy and scalar waves.
    I don`t wanna buy a new flyback transformer now and for the moment I don`t have were to get another one from color TV ... please tell me how can I make this work even it`s working just for couple experiments will mean much to me.
    Also i`m verry aware of high voltage danger and I will not neglect the issue

    PS: I had done before some experiments with high voltage but I`ve considered that they not deserve mention ... the one with caps and diodes ionizer and if you search in PJKbook at page 223 the one with plasma globe and the aerian coil ...
     
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    I dont think anyone is saying they are SMARTER then those people you list.

    There is one thing you are forgetting. POWER ISNT FREE.

    If they figured it out, we wouldn't be paying for power. You still dont know what you are talking about. Im not calling those people nuts.

    As people delve into these free energy experiments, you will get REAL close. So close, you will crave more information to get there. You will not find this information for free. And when you PAY for the source, you wont have the "friction-free" bearings or the "ideal" capacitors or the "gravity" sheild or the "single pole" magents.

    So, do the experiments. DO them. If you solve the problem, post it for all to get free power.

    Everyone else that has figured it out has posted their results, but they are the ONLY ones who have gotten it to work. And NO one has any free power.

    I think you should do the experiments. I just said DONT pay scammers. Thats all.

    If you want a flyback, you know what to do. Go to a junk yard or pawn shop and find a $2 color monitor and pull it out. The link to the floater shows you how to test in and get the pin outs.

    Black and white uses different frequencies than color, and different power requirements, so you will need a color one to us 99% of the experiments on the internet.

    Also, make sure, if you get somthing to run on its own power, be sure it has enough power left over to power something else, or it is useless. If it cant run itself and charge a battery to power something else, it doesn't matter. Keep your lead lengths short and use the best conductors you can find.
     
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