Help with Thevenin circuit homework---- $5 paypal

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  1. jarednoob

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    I attatched a 4 problem prelab assignment thats due tomarrow. 5$ paypal for the first one to complete it
     
  2. bertus

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    Hello,

    We are not a homework service:

    Show us what you have reached and we will give hints.

    Bertus
     
  3. jarednoob

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    So far i got to whats written on the page. Im having trouble finding the thevenin voltage because im used to dealing with 1 voltage source not 2
     
  4. Pym

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    For Part 1 There are at least 2 ways to do this.
    Probably the best way is to take Va R1 and R2 and make a first Thévenin equivalent circuit. Then you connect this equivalent circuit to R3 and Vb. You can determine the current which flows in this new circuit, and then using ohm's law calculate the voltage of (a) with respect to (b)

    Another way
    Lets call the current which passes through R1 I1, the current which passes through R3 I2.
    So the current which passes through R2 will be I1 + I2
    Now you have to write 2 equations:
    The first for the current in the loop with R1 and R2
    And the second for the current in the loop with R3 and R2
    The first equation will be
    15=I1*R1 + (I1+I2)*R2
    This needs to be rearranged
    15=I1*(R1+R2)+I2*R2
    I will leave you to determine the second equation and rearrange it
    So, 2 equations with 2 unknowns to be solved, which will give you I1 and I2
    Using ohm's law will allow you to calculate the Thévenin voltage (a) to (b)
    I suggest that you use both methods to check.

    BTW, You need to recalculate the Thévenin equivalent resistance
    Good luck !
     
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  5. retched

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    I cant believe you didn't at least remove the school name from the assignment.

    What if your professor sees this? Or another student? Or a real student that does his own work and stayed awake for 2 days to solve this, happens to e-mail a link to your school?

    Jeesh. You should re-think your methods.

    After post #4, are you still having trouble? What are you stuck on?
     
  6. JoeJester

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    $5 ... are you kidding me.

    What does $5 buy anymore?

    I'd forward this link to the Chair at your university and see if they would accept payment for the services you wanted.
     
  7. jarednoob

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    Ok this is what i have so far. my question is, my question is finding the voltage across a-b. I found the current to be 0.036A so do I do V=(0.036A)(40) to find the voltage across A and V=(0.036A)(100) for B and just add them?
     
  8. kingdano

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    lol

    got em!

    seriously kid, no one is going to do your homework for you

    just because we are engineers doesnt mean we want to do thevinin and norton circuits all day long.

    do your own homework - or go ask your prof for help - THATS WHAT YOU PAY THEM FOR BUDDY!


    /rant

    and if you do want to bribe someone, start higher - $50USD minimum.

    Time is money - and my time is worth more than $5.
     
  9. t06afre

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    Asking your prof my be a good solution, and more money for beer;) Just never say "I do not understand it" Just ask like "According to what I understand, the problem can be solved by doing this and this" And then "Can you please confirm if this is correct" This will show that you at least have tried.
     
  10. blueroomelectronics

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    And a University student nonetheless. Sheesh.
     
  11. jarednoob

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    well my EE prof is the dean so he doesnt have office hours like a regular professor.

    Anyways, i posted a question, along with an img with how far I had gotten, so if you could help with me with that i would appreciate it
     
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  13. jarednoob

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    Ok let me see if i understand this...Is #1 asking for the equivalent circuit thats to the left of a-b?? If thats the case this circuit is cake
     
  14. t06afre

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    No Vth is the same as you put a voltmeter between a and b. Rth is the resistance you measure then all voltage sources are shorted and current sources are left open
     
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  16. JoeJester

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    Jarod,

    Visit http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_10/7.html and see how they analyzed a similiar circuit.

    Then attempt your circuit and come back here with your work. We will assist you, but not do your work. We will guide you.

    The assignment is the prelude to a lab on the same topic. It's important you know what to expect when your doing the lab and then identify the differences between the theory and the measurements, if any.

    Vth is the open circuit voltage at the node where the 200 ohm resistor is connected, only the 200 ohm resistor is removed.

    You can figure it out using superposition or any of the theorums of your choice, just let us know what one you ended up using.
     
  17. Norfindel

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    Why would him remove the 200 ohm resistor? I think it's not the load, just part of the circuit. The load would be at points A-B.
     
  18. JoeJester

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    That could be true. Since the OP is at a loss, doing the one would gain some confidence and it's not a great leap to include the 200 ohm resistor.

    The lab assignment never mentioned a load at points A-B, but it will be discussed if the OP comes back. I'm sure you noticed his attempt at the solution.
     
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  19. salmanshaheen_88

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    hey jarednoob send me an email at <snip> for your complete solution
     
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