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grad-student

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Attached are two circuits with their output voltage waveforms. These circuits are working under range of temperature (25-200 °C). The 2nd and 4th attached waveforms show the output voltages under the different temperatures.
I am trying to analyze why am I getting these kind of waveforms. Why the temperature is breaking the the output voltage but not for the second one. I will appreciate any kind of help.
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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I could not get it to act like yours, but I didn't have your FET Model. Maybe something wrong with the model?
PS.
I think you want the snubber on the other side of the inductor.
And the power is very high In the FET.
 

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ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
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Can you post your .acs file?
I think it may have something to do with this statement from the sub file:
G_G_Rd d2 d1 VALUE
+ {V(d2,d1)/(
+ (1-fpar17)
+ *((dRd*0.5*(1+SQRT(1+4*(MAX(V(d2,d1),0)/fpar15)**(LIMIT(2+fpar16*(V(t1)+Tref-fpar29),0,3)))))
+ *((Tref+LIMIT(V(t1),-200,999))/fpar29)**fpar10)
+ + (fpar17)*((dRd*0.5*(1+SQRT(1+4*(MAX(V(d2,d1),0)/fpar15)**(LIMIT(2+fpar16*(V(t1)+Tref-fpar29),0,3)))))))}

You could try raising the 200 to 300. I don't know spice well enough to offer more. Maybe someone at yahoo groups or ltwiki could help.
 

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grad-student

Joined Nov 19, 2014
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I think it may have something to do with this statement from the sub file:
G_G_Rd d2 d1 VALUE
+ {V(d2,d1)/(
+ (1-fpar17)
+ *((dRd*0.5*(1+SQRT(1+4*(MAX(V(d2,d1),0)/fpar15)**(LIMIT(2+fpar16*(V(t1)+Tref-fpar29),0,3)))))
+ *((Tref+LIMIT(V(t1),-200,999))/fpar29)**fpar10)
+ + (fpar17)*((dRd*0.5*(1+SQRT(1+4*(MAX(V(d2,d1),0)/fpar15)**(LIMIT(2+fpar16*(V(t1)+Tref-fpar29),0,3)))))))}

You could try raising the 200 to 300. I don't know spice well enough to offer more. Maybe someone at yahoo groups or ltwiki could help.
Ok ronv. Thanks for your help.
Just a question regarding to what you have suggested. Do I need to add those to sub file or how can I do that?
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
3,770
I think you can open the .lib file with notepad then change this line. I would try changing -200,999 to -500,9999.

+ *((Tref+LIMIT(V(t1),-200,999))/fpar29)**fpar10)
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
3,770
Holy cow does that run slow,
Anyway to maybe answer your question. One is a boost converter, 2 is a buck converter so the current in #1 is much higher in the FETs.
It is to high to actually work in anything but the model.
 

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grad-student

Joined Nov 19, 2014
24
Holy cow does that run slow,
Anyway to maybe answer your question. One is a boost converter, 2 is a buck converter so the current in #1 is much higher in the FETs.
It is to high to actually work in anything but the model.
Yes. It is actually very slow in the first design.
I appreciate your help.
 
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