Fuel of the Future: Water, is it a myth or legend?

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
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from where u got this nitrous oxide? when u burn brown's gas, u get water?
It takes an enormous quantity of Browns gas (hydrogen plus oxygen) to run a car. The HHO projects produce just a tiny amoumt of HHO to fool the people into thinkung it is doing something (it just makes the gasoline burn lean to increase fuel economy, increase nitrous oxide and burn the pistons).
It is a scam.
 

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linchiek

Joined Jul 23, 2008
110
It takes an enormous quantity of Browns gas (hydrogen plus oxygen) to run a car.
how enormous quantity u r looking 4? :confused:

http://www.gethydropower.com/products.html

The HHO projects produce just a tiny amoumt of HHO to fool the people into thinkung it is doing something (it just makes the gasoline burn lean to increase fuel economy, increase nitrous oxide and burn the pistons).
It is a scam.
http://www.fuelfromh2o.com.au/id7.html

Emission Test from Texas showing Oxide of Nitrogen release from HHO Hybrid Vehicle
 

Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
23,421
My first impression is the front of a radiator is not a dead space, and it is a very bad idea to use it as such. Of course, in Dallas the temperatures have been running around 106 degrees Fahrenheit (41C). This is bound to affect anyones attitude towards cooling systems.

What is the primary language in Malaysia? I suspect my comments wouldn't be understood if I were to register.
 

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linchiek

Joined Jul 23, 2008
110
My first impression is the front of a radiator is not a dead space, and it is a very bad idea to use it as such. Of course, in Dallas the temperatures have been running around 106 degrees Fahrenheit (41C). This is bound to affect anyones attitude towards cooling systems.
not sure why they installed the generator infront of the radiator... :confused:

What is the primary language in Malaysia? I suspect my comments wouldn't be understood if I were to register.
primary language in malaysia is malay... english is 2ndary....

most malaysian do understand english...

if u r looking for translation, here's one 4 u.... not even 95% accurate... but still understandable... :(

http://www.citcat.com/green_ov.jsp?lang=1
 

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linchiek

Joined Jul 23, 2008
110
I found some extremely interesting reading here: http://www.aardvark.co.nz/hho_scam2.shtml

I especially like the proposed experiment with switching the electrolyser on and off while maintaining constant pedal pressure.
yeap....... read that before.....


btw, here's the link for USD1 million...

http://aardvark.co.nz/hho_challenge.shtml

they dun offer full refund for participant (USD5000). while malaysian r being offer full refund http://gohybridzclub.ning.com/ if HHO dun offer any saving... :rolleyes:
 

thingmaker3

Joined May 16, 2005
5,083
Looks like yet another sales pitch with mysterious techno-mumbo-jumbo thrown in.:rolleyes:

I am especially amused that the "pre-ignition" catalytic converter plugs into the exact spot where the standard catalytic converter (post combustion) was removed.:rolleyes:

And for only a little over a thousand bucks, they'll be happy to ship one to your right now!:cool:
 

beenthere

Joined Apr 20, 2004
15,819
I detect a bit of looseness with the terminology in the process flow chart. Or does anyone else think that adding a "plasma" to the fuel/air mix will do little else than explode the mixture at that point?

This is similar to an ad for a spark plug that somehow vastly increases the spark, and therefore makes combustion more efficient (Popular Science magazine has it).

I notice there is an official organization offering a monetary prize for significant increases in fuel mileage. I also notice that none of these inventors is receiving any of that money/recognition. Perhaps there is something to consider about that.
 

Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
23,421
Plasma = Fire

Lets see, Fuel, Air, Ignition.

Yep, definately explosive.

As for increasing the spark, I vote for a Tesla Coil. That ought to do it.

Just think, arcs that reach the entirety of the chamber all at once.
 

thingmaker3

Joined May 16, 2005
5,083
I'm still waiting for a reasonable explanation of how/why adding hydrogen makes the petroleum release more energy upon burning. This notion is the only thing in all the literature which might make some sense. Yet I have found only the most vague of references in my searching.

I repeat my earlier invitation: Can anyone here provide the chemical equations involved? Or provide a link doing so? How is it that burning hydrogen catalyzes the burning petroleum?
 

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linchiek

Joined Jul 23, 2008
110
Looks like yet another sales pitch with mysterious techno-mumbo-jumbo thrown in.:rolleyes:

I am especially amused that the "pre-ignition" catalytic converter plugs into the exact spot where the standard catalytic converter (post combustion) was removed.:rolleyes:

And for only a little over a thousand bucks, they'll be happy to ship one to your right now!:cool:
with 100% refund policy? :D
 
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