Dusk to dawn using an op amp

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deadlight

Joined Mar 20, 2009
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Hello all. I have been visiting this site for a few weeks and find it extremely helpful. Now i have come to the point where I could use some help. I am in an associates program and have been given the task to build a simple dusk to dawn switch. The only requirements are that I must use a photosistor, an lm741, and a 9 volt battery. Optionally it could also be able to be fine tuned for the amount of light required to turn it off. (potentiometer maybe?) I have spent weeks on this and cannot get it to work. Any suggestions or schematics would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.
 

Audioguru

Joined Dec 20, 2007
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A lousy old 741 opamp was designed 41 years ago for a 30V power supply voltage.
A 9V battery quickly drops to only 7.2V.
Many 741 opamps do not work with a supply as low as 7.2V to 9V.

About 35 years ago, Motorola had a datasheet for their better opamp that showed why the inputs and output of a 741 opamp did not work when the supply voltage was low.

I would use the MC33171 low power low voltage opamp or the MC34071 normal power low voltage opamps instead. Their minimum supply is only 3V.
 

Wendy

Joined Mar 24, 2008
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By "photosistor," do you mean "phototransistor," or "photoresistor," or "photovoltaic cell?"
I'm betting photovoltaic cell.

A lousy old 741 opamp was designed 41 years ago for a 30V power supply voltage.
A 9V battery quickly drops to only 7.2V.
Many 741 opamps do not work with a supply as low as 7.2V to 9V.
The requirements were not his to make, it is an assignment as well as a project. The plus/minus aspect is why I like using 2 9V batteries though.

Given the op amp doesn't go rail to rail (another way of saying they don't switch to the full power supply voltage) you'll probably need a couple of diodes (or a LED, or a zener) to absorb voltage.
 
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deadlight

Joined Mar 20, 2009
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Thank you again for all your replies. By photosistor i meant a photo resistor. So far the only thing I have gotten to work, albeit for only a few seconds, was by using a 5 volt relay as the switch itself.
 
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