Double 555 timer motor driver

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Keroosh

Joined Aug 30, 2011
3
Hi,
I've been trying to build a circuit using 2 555 timers to drive a 120VAC motor. One controls freq and the other controls pulse width. Everything works fine until I put an actual AC load on the relay then it doesn't always want to swith back to its off position and frequency control 555 starts to fire when it's not supposed to.
What I can't figure out is how the AC current through the relay is causing problems with my first 555 timer (the freq control) because its not even connected to the relay in anyway except through ground (I did use protect diodes btw). This is an inductive load I'm driving so do I need some kind of filtering to keep the relay from being affected by EMI? Is it just a piece of crap relay?

thanks
 

ian123

Joined Aug 24, 2011
73
Hi,
I've been trying to build a circuit using 2 555 timers to drive a 120VAC motor. One controls freq and the other controls pulse width. Everything works fine until I put an actual AC load on the relay then it doesn't always want to swith back to its off position and frequency control 555 starts to fire when it's not supposed to.
What I can't figure out is how the AC current through the relay is causing problems with my first 555 timer (the freq control) because its not even connected to the relay in anyway except through ground (I did use protect diodes btw). This is an inductive load I'm driving so do I need some kind of filtering to keep the relay from being affected by EMI? Is it just a piece of crap relay?

thanks
please post a schematic so we can see what is going on
 

JingleJoe

Joined Jul 23, 2011
186
Hi,
I've been trying to build a circuit using 2 555 timers to drive a 120VAC motor. One controls freq and the other controls pulse width. Everything works fine until I put an actual AC load on the relay then it doesn't always want to swith back to its off position and frequency control 555 starts to fire when it's not supposed to.
What do you mean by "fire"? Surely not an acctual fire with flames and magic blue smoke!
(I did use protect diodes btw).
Did you use a diode in series with the relay coil aswell as a reveresed one in paralel? That's what my 555 timer needed in order to work properly with a relay.
 

Thread Starter

Keroosh

Joined Aug 30, 2011
3
No not that kind of fire, JJ. What would be more accurate term? Trigger?

Yes, I have a diode in series from output of the 555 to the relay coil and another in parallel across the coil. The relay will switch positions correctly until I connect a motor and then it sticks. I can understand if it is just a sticky relay but when I disconnect the motor it still sticks until I remove power.

I do have the (off-state pin?) of the relay just floating. Should this maybe be grounded through a big resistor? Doesn't seem to me like it should matter but I'm at a loss here.

Sorry I don't have a schematic posted yet. I'll try and get one drawn up soon.

Thanks
 
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