Differential LPF cutoff frequency calculation

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  1. Jebasingh

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    Hi all,

    I have two Differentail RC Low pass filter cascaded, i found the cutoff frequency using simulation it comes around 12Hz, the maximum frequency of the input signal can be 50Hz.
    kindly let me know the formula to calculate the cutoff frequency theoritically

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    Jebasingh
     
  2. Vahe

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    If you have a RC lowpass filter, the cutoff (3dB) frequency would be
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f_c = \frac{1}{2 \pi R C}<br />
    The single stage would provide a -20dB/dec roloff above the cutoff frequency. If you have two identical ones cascaded back to back and they are isolated, the cutoff frequency would still be the same but there would be a -40dB/decade roloff above the cutoff frequency. I am not sure about the structure of your circuit; however, if you post it I can provide more comments.

    Cheers,
    Vahe
     
  3. Jebasingh

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    Hi vahe,

    Thanks for your reply
    i have attached my schematics
    The two differential filters are not identical ones
    kindly let me know the method to calculate the cutoff frequency

    Regards
    Jebasingh
     
  4. Ron H

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    If you convert to the equivalent single-ended filter, analysis will be much simpler.
     
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  5. Jebasingh

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    i have converted the same into single ended filter and found the cutoff frequency....thanks Ron
    now i have a question how to find the number of poles available in this filter circuit it looks like a double pole filter but the simulation results is not showing the impact of the second pole
    kindly advice me

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    Jebasingh
     
  6. Ron H

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    Sweep it from 1Hz to 100kHz. You'll see that the slope settles at -40dB/decade. That's indicative as a 2 pole filter.
     
  7. Jebasingh

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    i have done sweep already and there is no indication of -40dB/dec of slope settling. can you just tell me the method to do calculation.
     
  8. Ron H

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    Have you calculated the Laplace transfer function? It should have an s^2 term in the denominator. The order of s is the order of the filter.
    I don't know why you didn't see the -40dB/decade slope. See the results below.
     
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