Convert 10 MHz sine wave to 1Hz TTL (PPS)

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  1. xSkGx

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    Hi, I have a 10 MHz sine wave and I want to convert it into a 1 Hz square wave.

    Wave details:
    Vpk-pk: 4V, Cyc RMS: 1.4V, Period: 100ns, Frec: 10 MHz

    I found some schematics (this one) but its input is 10 MHz square wave, so if it's easier to convert 10MHz sine to 1 Hz square give me a hint please.
     
  2. bertus

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    Hello,

    You can use the circuit if you put an schmitt-trigger in front of it.
    An 7414 is an schmitt-trigger that will output the wanted squarewave.

    Bertus
     
  3. t06afre

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    Using a 7414 is an schmitt-trigger may be an good idea. But asuming 5 volt as supply voltage. The positive-going threshold will be typical 2.38 volt and max 3.15 volt. And also the 7414 will not like negative voltage on the input. This is something that need to be sorted out ;)
     
  4. bertus

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    Hello,

    I see no big problems.
    Use this circuit as input:

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    Remove C7 and R2 and R3 to connect it.

    Bertus
     
  5. t06afre

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    Yes that will do the job nice
     
  6. RiJoRI

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    Just out of curiosity, why would you want to make a divide-by-10-million circuit???

    --Rich
     
  7. t06afre

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    @Bertus
    Since we are talking about a relative high frequency here. Do you think it would be an idea to select resistor values. In order to get a better match with the signal generator output resistance. Which I guess is around 50 ohm
     
  8. bertus

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    Hello,

    You could put a 50 Ohm resistor on the input to ground for impedance matching.

    Bertus
     
  9. Markd77

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    On the schematic I noticed that the supply voltage of 5V is being fed into a 5V regulator. That isn't going to work well, the 7805 regulator would need at least 7V to work reliably.
    If the 5V supply is stable anyway you could just skip the regulator.
     
  10. THE_RB

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    You can do it with one tiny PIC like a 12F675 and no other parts needed.

    Just use the 10MHz sine to clock the PIC (your 4v p/p signal will be fine) and use firmware to generate the 1 second output.

    The firmware is proven and very simple, it is the ZEZJ (Zero Error Zero Jitter) algorithm about 1/3 of the way down this page of PIC timing systems;
    http://www.romanblack.com/one_sec.htm
     
  11. xSkGx

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    @bertus
    Then it was that I tought, I need a schmitt-trigger, ty for the schematic.

    @t06afre & @bertus
    Yes, it's 50Ohm, I forgot to mention it but I'm counting with it.

    @RiJoRI
    Well, I have an rubidium atomic clock and I need an 1 PPS signal in order to sync my system's clock.

    @Markd77
    Yes, I have two options, one is to use 5V from the computer's PSU and other is to use 15V from the atomic clock's PSU.
     
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