# Common Emitter Amplifier, Upper Frequeny Limit

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1. ### gbm46 Thread Starter Active Member

May 6, 2007
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I am stuck on a question where I need to find the upper frequeny limit due to Ccb of the transistor which is given as 100p.

It is a voltage divider configuartion and the question asks for the limit with and without load. I just have no idea how to do this and cant find any help in my notes. I would really appreciate some help with this.

I am also unsure if I calculated the low frequency limit imposed by C2 correctly, I used the equation 1/[2(pi)fC2]=RL, resulting in 1.6Hz. I am unsure if Rc needs to be added in series with RL or not. I found conflicting notes on the web.

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2. ### BeeBop Member

Apr 25, 2006
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Cout(Miller) = Cbc(Av + 1/ Av)

then your critical frequency can be found with:
fc = 1/ 2 pi Rc Cout(Miller) where Rc is the collector resistor parallel with the load resistor.

Hope you can make this out; the small letters are subscripts

Because Vcc is AC ground, you need to put the collector resistor in parallel with your load. That subscript should be a capital C, as the lower case c as a subscript means collector resistor in parallel with load resistor. Make sense?

3. ### gbm46 Thread Starter Active Member

May 6, 2007
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Yes thanks very much, I can now find the high frequency limit. I am still a little confused about finding the low frequency limit from the output coupling capacitor as

from http://archive.chipcenter.com/circuitcellar/september01/c0901ts7.htm

So now I have three options and I don't know what to trust .

4. ### BeeBop Member

Apr 25, 2006
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Yes, it can be a bit confusing. What they mean is not that the resistors are considered in series with each other, but in series with the cap. It is a high pass filter.
Vcc is still considered as an AC ground, so the collector resistor is in parallel with the load. Just as with the input capacitance, which is working in series with the parallel resistance of both base bias resistors, and the emitter resistance seen through the base. You should have three critical frequencies on the low end, and they will each roll off at -20 dB per decade.

5. ### gbm46 Thread Starter Active Member

May 6, 2007
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I think I get it now, thank you so much for your help.