circuit needed.

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by geoffm, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. geoffm

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    Sep 29, 2008
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    Hi.All.
    I am looking for a circuit to monitor a variable voltage up to 1VRMS and trip a relay if the voltage is reached, a circuit,a pre built module that I can adapt or any other ideas,,,can anyone help.
    Geoff (newbe to this site)
     
  2. mik3

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    Use a comparator IC (op-amp) with its inverting input at a reference voltage of approximately 1.41 Volts and apply your signal on the non-inverting input. When the signal will reach 1 Volt RMS (1.41 V peak) the comparator will output a positive voltage and activate your relay.
     
  3. geoffm

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    Thank you MIK3, is there any circuit and component ref. around, took HNC back in 74 now retired and out of step with modern components.
    Regards Geoff.
     
  4. SgtWookie

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    You might look at an LM2903 dual comparator. Low power, can be used w/single or dual supply, common mode includes input down to the negative rail, and it's suitable for automotive/industrial temp ranges.
     
  5. mkbutan

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    HI
    I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN ELECTRONIC'S
    BUT YOU CAN USE OP-AMP IC'S LIKE (LM339N)
    ASK FOR THE COMPLEAT CKT.
    GOOD LUCK
    AND Mr MIK3 IS RIGHT
    MKBUTAN.
    ∏∏∏∏∏∏∏∏∏∏∏√
     
  6. SgtWookie

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    An LM339 is a comparator.

    I strongly recommend against using an opamp for a comparator function, as the opamp's output stage will be in constant saturation due to being operated in open-loop mode; this means high power consumption and the likelyhood of a short life span.

    Comparators generally have open collector outputs. This means that they can sink current, but cannot source it. If you need a current source, then you can add a pull-up resistor.

    To calculate the value of pull-up resistor:
    1) Look at the datasheet to determine the minimum sink current. For this example, we'll use 6mA, and Vcc=12v.
    2) divide the minimum sink current by 2. (6mA/2 = 3mA)
    3) Divide Vcc by the result to get the resistance. (12v/3mA = 12/0.003 = 4k Ohms
     
  7. beenthere

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    See if this will do. Remember that the USB port is limited as to current, so use a relay that won't overdraw the port.

    Get the data sheet for the LM311 and read the various gotcha's about them. The R2 resistor is a guess about hysteresis - you will need some if your monitored voltage changes slowly.
     
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