Cement mixer

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  1. Keith Robinson

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    My electric cement mixer has lost power over the years. A new motor is £150 but then I rememberd my HGV mechanic day's were I would refurbish lorry starter motors by renewing the brushes and cleaning the commutator segments. Before I try this on the cement mixer motor how could I measue the power output before and after, with the motor on the bench? Is this possible or does the motor need to be under load to see if it's got more power after the refurbing?
     
  2. Brownout

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    The motor needs a load to be tested properly. Is your motor AC or DC? Are you sure it has brushes, because nearly all AC motors these days do not. If it's a permanent magnet DC motor, the magnets can get weak over time.
     
  3. Keith Robinson

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    Hi, thanks for your comments. It's 220 v AC and I'm probably living in the past! It's many years since I've worked on motors and of course the vehicle one would be 24v DC. The mixer is s out 18years old so perhaps it won't have brushes.
    If that's the case, is there any way to give it new lease of life? Re-power the magnets? Or something?
    Thanks again for your input. Regards Keith
     
  4. Brownout

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    It's most likely an induction motor -- no brushes or magnets. Most you can try is to clean it up and maybe replace the bearings. It might just be time for a new motor.
     
  5. Keith Robinson

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    Thanks for this info. I've found some pictures of the motor when I refurbished the drum and frame a few years ago. It looks quite worn so I think you've got it right. Just have to bite the bullet and get a new motor. Thank you for your help.
     
  6. BReeves

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    See if you can find a local motor re-builder, around here you can get a motor like that rebuilt like new for less than 1/2 the price of a new one.
     
  7. Dodgydave

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    i guess your in the UK, most AC single phase motors are universal types with brushes, or capacitor run without brushes.
     
  8. Keith Robinson

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    Thanks for that I'll ring round a few places (where is 'around here'?) Im in the UK.
     
  9. Keith Robinson

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    It's got a cap under the cover so no brushes then. New motor or a rebuild by the way it's looking. Thanks for your input.
     
  10. BReeves

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    Sorry thought I had my location in my profile.. Now fixed..
     
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  11. JWHassler

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    Try removing the end bell and inspecting the motor.
    If the windings are not burnt and no bad odors appear, bearing replacement might give you another 18 years.
    (Fond memories of killing time in the cannery by reviving motors from the boneyard.)
     
  12. MaxHeadRoom

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    The fact it is 2800 rpm, (2 pole on 50hz) points to induction motor, especially made by Brook motors who mainly made 1ph/3ph induction types.
    I agree that a strip down, clean and new bearings may get you going.
    Max.
     
  13. Keith Robinson

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    That's another area to look at - many thanks. It didn't smell burnt but it's worth inspecting the innards more closely. Thanks.
     
  14. Keith Robinson

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    Certainly armed with much more info, thanks to all the knowledgeable help here. I'll be delving into its innards shortly. Much obliged to you (all)
     
  15. Kermit2

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    innards and obliged ?

    you sound like a Texan. (that's a good thing)

    :)
     
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  16. Keith Robinson

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    Well young fella, I'm all choked up, you eyeballin me for being a good ol boy from the lone star state!
    That's a powerful compliment an Im obliged to you Sir!
     
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