Camera to TV connection issue

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by Georacer, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. Georacer

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    I have bought the video camera Samsung SMX-F70BP for my family. I want to connect it directly to the TV, a Panasonic TX-29PS11D.

    The camera has an output video adaptor that ends in a composite video RCA connector and another two RCA connectors for Left and Right audio channels.
    However, on connection the image appears black and white. The sound is ok.
    I twisted the connectors a bit, to make sure it wasn't a bad connection.

    Any ideas?
     
  2. Wendy

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    It does sound like a frequency response issue. What kind of cable are you using.

    Have you tried it with a different TV/Monitor? It could also be a tolerance issue between the two devices, since color is a single phase shifted frequency embedded in the video signal.

    I got a security video camera too, though I haven't connected yet.
     
  3. praondevou

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    Wow, I wanted to have a look at the TV user manual. They charge money for THAT?:eek:

    No configuration possible on the TV set?
     
  4. Georacer

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    I tried to find the manual online too. Stumbled upon the paysites too. I 'll ask my father if where he has it stored, but I don't know how it will help me.

    As you can see the TV is rather old. Let me think... yes it's 11 years old now, I think. Wow. It has a digital menu though and 100Hz refresh rate. It must have been a good buy back then. Heavy like a bag of bricks, though.

    I don't have a second TV set to test the camera, unfortunately.

    http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201109/20110929180127827/SMX-F70P-ENG_UK_IB_0928.pdf
    Here is the camera manual. On page 77 you can see the cable type. It was included in the camera package.
     
  5. bertus

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    Hello,

    Has the TV a menu to select the type of video input?
    Perhaps there is a choice between PAL and NTSC or even SECAM.

    Bertus
     
  6. Georacer

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    It does. You can choose among PAL, SECAM, M. NTSC, NTSC and auto. None of them make a difference, though. Of course the NTSC modes cause flickering, this is Europe, anyway.
     
  7. Wendy

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    Just curious, how does the color look on the SD card? I'm thinking of you playing the SD card on your computer.
     
  8. Georacer

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    I have successfully played colour videos on the camera LCD panel and stored them in the PC via mini USB.

    I don't think I can blame the tv adaptor. Could it be the age of the tv?
     
  9. R!f@@

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    Show me a photo of the connector, the camera and the TV. Be sure to show me the area, that is the labeling too.

    It must work u know. unless it is a component out.
     
  10. mcgyvr

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    The problem is 100% NTSC/PAL related..
    I believe your older TV just doesn't support the NTSC to 60hz PAL conversions going on in the camera or adapter.
     
  11. Georacer

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    I took the photos from my phone, connected it to the home wifi, uploaded them through dropbox app and got them in my pc.

    Isn't technology amazing?

    I know that focus sucks. Do you need anything else, Rifaa?
     
  12. studiot

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    This is not such an uncommon problem when connecting different makes/types of video equipment. It has to do with the polarity of the video signal, some equiment has negative going, some positive going.
    My studio monitor (and some TVs) has a switch for this, labelled Satellite and Video, which are of the opposite polarity. Watching one in the wrong mode kills the colour burst signal.

    go well
     
  13. Georacer

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    Hm... I didn't know that. I 'll tamper with the TV more.
     
  14. thatoneguy

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    Doing that 10 years ago would have resulted in a thread calling you a liar or a Witch.

    Yes, I do love technology.
     
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  16. R!f@@

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    Do you have the camera manual.

    That connection is pretty straight forward.
    U shud not have any issue with that if your TV is MultiSystem and if it is set to Auto in color system settings.

    Unless it is a NTSC 3.58 and ur TV does not have that color decoding, which means it could be NTSC 4.43 only .

    Multi ones have both NTSC 4.43 & 3.58 MHz color carrier
     
  17. Wendy

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    Everyone keeps referring to NTSC. As far as I know Greece used to be PAL.
     
  18. R!f@@

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    I don't think the cam is set to PAL.

    If it is then Geo shud not have any issue
     
  19. Georacer

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    I can't imagine how those two signals could be separated. The connection is pretty straightforward: Camera->included cable->TV. I haven't messed with anything beforehand.

    I posted the camera manual on post #4. Greece works with PAL, so NTSC talk is futile.

    The TV isn't as old as I expected. It's approximetely 7 years old after all. I can't find anything on the camera that says that it records on PAL. But when I tell my TV to play on NTSC the image flickers badly, so I assume the camera writes on PAL.

    Thanks for all your trouble thinking for me guys, but I guess I 'll admit a camera and a TV have beaten me.
     
  20. R!f@@

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    Hey.....this is AAC, we never give up...

    You being a MOD ...shame ....shame.....on you.

    Just you wait...lemme go through again.....
     
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