Camera or light sensor?

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  1. Bamber17

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  2. djsfantasi

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    I'd go with your suspicions. It looks like a camera to me. I expect to see camera's at ATMs.
     
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  3. Bamber17

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    Thanks - the company rep asked if "there were 2 cameras" which seemed like he was expecting one!

    It is pointing down - not out so it is looking at the keypad.
     
  4. DickCappels

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    Do you realize that your photograph is recorded each time you use a cash machine? Be sure to shave and comb your hair before typing in the PIN!
     
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  5. Bamber17

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    What's a comb? :-D

    Problem is this device wont get your picture unless you rest the back of your head on the keypad - it points down not out! :)

    What do you think it is?
     
  6. ErnieM

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    Many ATMs have a camera inside to take pictures of who is using it.

    A second camera located above the device seems perfectly situated to "shoulder surf" any data manually entered, such as PIN numbers.

    Why would an ATM need a light sensor anyway?
     
  7. Bamber17

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    Good point!
     
  8. alfacliff

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    how about a skimmer? a reader stuck to the card slot and a camera to capture the pin number on the keyboard? 6 were found in wichita over the 4th of july. bluetooths your card data and pin to someone with bad intentions.
     
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  9. dl324

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    If the camera looks like it was part of the design, it could be looking for people who are trying to crack PINs or are tampering with the device.

    Or it could be a hacked ATM that has a skimmer to collect info from cards and the camera is used to associate PINs with the card data.
     
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  10. sirch2

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    The camera could be there to specifically look for skimmers being fitted.
     
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  11. pwdixon

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    It might have a light sensor if it wanted to brighten/dim the screen depending on ambient lighting perhaps.
     
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  12. alfacliff

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    but how would pointing a light sensor at the keyboard be used to brighten / darken the screen?
     
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  14. alfacliff

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    then what about the keyboard would be at ambient light? an ambient light sensor is usujally an unfocused broad area sensor. athe light reflected by the keyboard would dim when someone was using it,
     
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  15. Alec_t

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    I agree. A simple light sensor wouldn't need all that shrouding ( focusing ring?).
     
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  16. Bamber17

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    Thanks for responses - just got back to computer.

    I'm going to try covering the sensor and observing the screen brightness - if that does not change I cannot see any reason for it.
     
  17. blocco a spirale

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    This thread is based on the misguided presumption that the manager knows what he's talking about with regard to the technicalities of cash machines. I'd presume the opposite.

    The device is exactly what it appears to be.
     
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