bringing humanity back

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by RRITESH KAKKAR, Dec 10, 2015.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. RRITESH KAKKAR

    Thread Starter Senior Member

    Jun 29, 2010
    2,831
    89
    jwolfdam likes this.
  2. wayneh

    Expert

    Sep 9, 2010
    12,120
    3,046
    Giving money to the poor can be viewed as immoral soothing of one's own conscience, much like giving a drink to an alcoholic. I didn't read about this individual so I'm certainly not passing judgement.
     
  3. Brownout

    Well-Known Member

    Jan 10, 2012
    2,375
    998
    It can also be viewed as a great act of kindness.
     
  4. strantor

    AAC Fanatic!

    Oct 3, 2010
    4,302
    1,988
    Wow, i guess literally everything you say or do, can and will be used against you in the court of public (conflicting) opinion.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't, ad infinitum.
     
  5. wayneh

    Expert

    Sep 9, 2010
    12,120
    3,046
    Only by those ignorant of the reality of the unintended consequences, the outright cruelty of a selfish act.

    There's a recent and popular work on the topic, but it's not a new revelation.

    Once again I have to disclaim any knowledge of the TS's link. Not all charity is toxic and the fellow could be a saint for all I know. It was just the "free money" wording of his post #1 that got me riled up.
     
  6. JohnInTX

    Moderator

    Jun 26, 2012
    2,345
    1,028
    There is also an ancient work on the topic, also ending in 'revelation', sharing a different viewpoint that might be of interest.
     
    DerStrom8 and Brownout like this.
  7. Brownout

    Well-Known Member

    Jan 10, 2012
    2,375
    998
    No, mostly by those not ignorant of the reality of charity and of kind and giving spirit.
     
    RRITESH KAKKAR likes this.
  8. wayneh

    Expert

    Sep 9, 2010
    12,120
    3,046
    You'll find few examples in that work of the protagonist handing out "free money". He knew better.
     
  9. Brownout

    Well-Known Member

    Jan 10, 2012
    2,375
    998
    But numerous examples promoting and extolling charity.
     
  10. Sinus23

    Member

    Sep 7, 2013
    160
    408
    "Be excellent to each other"
     
  11. Sinus23

    Member

    Sep 7, 2013
    160
    408
    True, but without the benefit of the doubt we would all be judged as bastards beforehand.;)
     
  12. JoeJester

    AAC Fanatic!

    Apr 26, 2005
    3,373
    1,159
    It is no one's business on how I re-distribute my income. That issue becomes political in a heartbeat.

    Nothing prevents me from buying a meal for someone who needs it.

    Nothing prevents me from buying a drink for an alcoholic who is suffering from withdrawals. This doesn't mean I wouldn't take them to a treatment center or AA meeting.

    Only my conscience guides me. Your conscience guides you. This is not a race, not a contest, and not any kind of game.

    As far as the TS's post, It's good to see someone helping another.
     
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2015
  13. strantor

    AAC Fanatic!

    Oct 3, 2010
    4,302
    1,988
    He knew better, or he didn't have any money to give? According to the tales, what he had was level 50 fish/bread/wine conjuring, healing, and exorcism abilities; he handed out plenty of that stuff (pretty much everything he had to give). And then he gave his own life (which probably would have been a more significant gesture had he disabled respawn mode beforehand).

    Anyway that's (that = because the Bible said so) not really a point that lends a whole lot to the case for charity being a GOOD thing.

    Honestly i don't even know why this argument exists. Are there more people who think this way? How many people really believe that helping others in need is an IMMORAL thing to do? I only see see two viable scenarios where it's anything other than benevolent :

    1. When you have to forcefully take from someone to give to someone else (like taxes >> welfare). In this case it's not really charity, it's theft.

    2. When you have a chronic recipient who need not be a recipient. Like a welfare abuser. Someone who doesn't really NEED help, they just take any help they can get because it's easier than helping themselves. If you continue helping a lazyass like that, then yes, you ARE an enabler, and yes you probably should withdraw the teet.
     
  14. Lestraveled

    Well-Known Member

    May 19, 2014
    1,957
    1,215
    Kindness is my religion, Dalai Lama
     
    Sinus23 and RRITESH KAKKAR like this.
  15. GopherT

    AAC Fanatic!

    Nov 23, 2012
    6,043
    3,807
    I would help you but, since @wayneh opened my eyes, I will not help you for your own good.
     
    Sinus23, ronv, RRITESH KAKKAR and 3 others like this.
  16. strantor

    AAC Fanatic!

    Oct 3, 2010
    4,302
    1,988
    If i was the kind if guy who handed out unpurchased thanks, i would thank you for your gracious withholding. But I too am no longer that man. So let's just throw a mutual admiration party where the dress code is a ball gag.
     
    GopherT likes this.
  17. Lestraveled

    Well-Known Member

    May 19, 2014
    1,957
    1,215
    Gee, it sounds like someone pissed on someones prayer rug.
     
  18. GopherT

    AAC Fanatic!

    Nov 23, 2012
    6,043
    3,807
    Now I have to figure out how to help wayneh by not helping wayneh with his tablesaw question.
     
    ISB123 and wayneh like this.
  19. strantor

    AAC Fanatic!

    Oct 3, 2010
    4,302
    1,988
    The needle on the sarcasmometer has gone full circle in these last few posts. Don't mistake it for anger, it's 110% sarcasm (nearly humor).
     
    Sinus23 likes this.
  20. Lestraveled

    Well-Known Member

    May 19, 2014
    1,957
    1,215
    Excellent, I am glad I am not wasting my time.
     
    RRITESH KAKKAR likes this.
Loading...
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.