Blanking the retrace - Analog scope

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  1. atferrari

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    I managed to show on my scope a symbol formed by several dots by controlling voltages at the X-Y axis.

    To make it neat I would need to blank the retrace between dots.

    My scope is an old analog TRIO 10 MHz CS1562A. Couldn't find the manual but a PDF version found in the Web says that "modulation" may be done "at TTL" levels.

    Just in case, I tried myself bringing the Z axis input to 0V and 5V, getting only a change in brightness.

    Is it any way I could blank completely the retrace in between spots?
     
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  2. SgtWookie

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    You may have the brightness set too high for the Z-axis input to completely blank the trace. It's also possible that there are problems with the Z-axis input circuitry.
     
  3. atferrari

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    Everything seems to work well in normal use. To control the brightness, the Intensity controll was enough since I bought it more than 30 y ago. Mybe it is because I am trying to do something that the scope was not built for...:(
     
  4. SgtWookie

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    A PDF version of the manual is here: http://www.casa.co.nz/Equipment/Scope/Trio-CS1562A-Man-A3-16p.pdf
    (that may be the same version you found)
    On page 8 of 16, it says:
    There is also a schematic of the O-scope which I haven't spent much time reviewing, but it appears that the Z-axis input (at bottom center of schematic) would by default be held at a logic low level (0v). So, if you turn the brightness down, that should take care of the blanking issue.
     
  5. hgmjr

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    Were you not able to find the z-axis input to your scope as sgtwookie suggested? If present, it is typically located on the rear of the instrument.

    hgmjr
     
  6. beenthere

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    If you are operating in X-Y mode, there is really no retrace interval. The magic may be arranging for the portion of the signal you don't wish to show to have a level that makes it invisible. 0 volts ought to be that level, so your o'scope may be a bit out of adjustment.
     
  7. atferrari

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    First of all: thanks to you all for replying.

    Using -5V at the Z input, did the trick. Now back to some judicious programming.

    Just a word: I used the wrong word because I know that retrace is specific when I use the triggered modality. I just tried to name the trail visible when the beam goes from one spot to the next.

    Happy to have something solved.

    Gracias to you all again.
     
  8. atferrari

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    After persisting in my idea, I managed to get the blanking done.

    The transistor involved, a 2N2222 and later a TCG229 (VHF) did not switch with a 1.8 usec (560 KHz) pulse. !!??

    By software I increased it to 10 usec ON - 10 usec OFF and it works. ;) Trails are properly blanked now.

    The problem is when I try to show the maximum possible number of characters on the screen I will need a much faster routine thus a shorter pulse for blanking. How to get it?

    Circuit in use, shown in the attachment. Ideas anyone?
     
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