Amplifier protection flyback diodes

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by KCHARROIS, Jan 16, 2013.

  1. KCHARROIS

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    Jun 29, 2012
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    Hello

    I've designed another amplifier and now im in need of a way to limit current when theres a short. The picture below uses flyback diodes which I've seen in motors for protection but I dont know hpw they apply in this circuit.

    Thanks
     
  2. panic mode

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    Oct 10, 2011
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    it looks like bias circuit (represented by block) maintains 2.6V drop. diodes D1 and D2 are normally reverse biased and don't affect circuit. but when output is shorted to -Vrail, D2 is forward biased and pulls down base of Q1 which reduces current through Q1 and Q3.

    when output is shorted to +Vrail, same thing happens D1 becomes forward biased, Voltage or base of Q2 increases and current through Q2 and Q4 decreases.
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2013
  3. timescope

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    Amplifier short circuits usually occur between the output and ground for example when the speaker wires are shorted. In this case, the diodes will have no effect. The attached circuit is common (shown for the NPN transistors, change the transistor to PNP for the other half). The added transistor starts to conduct and limit the base drive current when the voltage across the emitter resistor is 0.6(1+R2/R1). The diode prevents the transistor collector-base junction from becoming forward biased when the drive is negative. The small capacitor maintains the transient response of the amplifier.

    Timescope
     
  4. MrChips

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    Power amplifiers coupled directly to the speaker present a number of challenges when:

    1. the output stage is not perfectly balanced
    2. the output is accidentally shorted
    3. the output overdrives the speaker for an extended length of time

    Here are some solutions that are used:

    1. AC couple the output through a large value non-polarized capacitor (not an ideal solution)
    2. insert a thermal resettable fuse in series with the speaker
    3. insert an incandescent light bulb in series with the speaker
     
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