Alternate dimmer

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AnalogKid

Joined Aug 1, 2013
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I have a thought about an alternate approach to lamp dimming, but I want to investigate it first in the isolated, low power DC realm. Here is the basic idea. Vin can be anything from +160 Vdc to -160 Vdc, and shares a common ground with the control circuit. The power MOSFET is oversized to handle the peak voltage and max load current. The 4017 clock has no timing relationship the load or the load power. Note: ignore the MOSFET internal diode for this thought experiment.

Dimmer-01-c.gif

The intent is for the 4017 and dipswitch to form a crude PWM:
Switch 1 only on = 33%
Switch 2 only on = 67%
Switch 3 only on = 100% (ignore reset signal race)

Again ignoring the MOSFET internal diode, any serious problems with this concept?

Thanks.

ak
 

ronv

Joined Nov 12, 2008
3,770
I have a thought about an alternate approach to lamp dimming, but I want to investigate it first in the isolated, low power DC realm. Here is the basic idea. Vin can be anything from +160 Vdc to -160 Vdc, and shares a common ground with the control circuit. The power MOSFET is oversized to handle the peak voltage and max load current. The 4017 clock has no timing relationship the load or the load power. Note: ignore the MOSFET internal diode for this thought experiment.

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The intent is for the 4017 and dipswitch to form a crude PWM:
Switch 1 only on = 33%
Switch 2 only on = 67%
Switch 3 only on = 100% (ignore reset signal race)

Again ignoring the MOSFET internal diode, any serious problems with this concept?

Thanks.

ak
The only potential problem I see is that the 4017 can't drive much current so a large FET like that will switch very slow which may be a problem if you plan to run it very fast.
 

gerty

Joined Aug 30, 2007
1,305
I would add a bias resistor to the gate of the FET to Vcc. I'm curious, what type of lamp are you planning on using that's 160Vdc?
 

ScottWang

Joined Aug 23, 2012
7,400
When the Vin = -160V, and the CD4017 always stay in +V, how can it drive the Vgs?
Or adding a totem pole connecting to +/-9V and the input of totem pole connecting to CD4017?
 

Thread Starter

AnalogKid

Joined Aug 1, 2013
11,045
When the Vin = -160V, and the CD4017 always stay in +V, how can it drive the Vgs?
Or adding a totem pole connecting to +/-9V and the input of totem pole connecting to CD4017?
Because the 4017 power is referenced to the MOSFET source, so Vgs is positive even when Vds is negative. That bi-directional channel in a MOSFET can be a real problem, but sometimes it is the solution.

ak
 
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