AD633 Analog Multiplier Problem

Discussion in 'General Electronics Chat' started by syee10, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. syee10

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    Hi,

    I have a problem here everyone. This is really make me going to crazy. I have an exact connection just like the connection in Figure 11.
    Suppose i have a 3V input to the X1 and 3V input to the Y1. X2 and Y2 is grounded. Z is also grounded. In this case i should get a 0.9V because 3X3/10 it will be 0.9V. I am sure my there is no wrong in my connection because i had check through it many times. The answer i get from the output W is around 12.2V. What happen to my circuit actually? Is my AD633 IC spoil or broken and give me this result? Please assist me =(

    You can find the AD633 Analog Multiplier Datasheet at http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/AD633.pdf
     
  2. Ron H

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    Have you checked the voltage on every pin (and I mean all 8 of them), right at the point where the pin enters the body of the IC? If you have, then your IC is probably bad.
     
  3. syee10

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    How to confirm the IC is spoil or broken? Do you have any methods to check?
     
  4. eblc1388

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    Ron just told you exactly how to check for that.

    Please read the reply carefully.
     
  5. syee10

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    Ok now i found what is the problem already. This is funny problem and i really dun know why this happen. Forget about what i post in the previous post, regardless which type of square wave i put into my input X1 and Y1. Square wave with positive peak and negative peak or square wave with positive peak and 0 is working fine with the AD633.
    The funny thing is, when i connect a probe (connect to oscilloscope) to either my input X1 or Y1, the output is working fine! And when i disconnect the probe again from my input X1 or Y1, the output is always show me 12.3V!! Why is this happen? Why must i connect a probe to either X1 or Y1 in order to get a correct output?! Please comment..
     
  6. beenthere

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    What does the circuit look like (schematic)?
     
  7. ifixit

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    Bad solder joint?
     
  8. syee10

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    The circuit is exactly same as the Figure 11 in the datasheet. The input to X1 and Y1 is a square waveform of 50Hz positive 1-5 high level voltage and 0 low voltage. What's wrong with the connection? Is the connection in Figure 11 in the datasheet miss out some components? Why must i connect a probe at either X1 or Y1 in order to get me a correct output?!
     
  9. Ron H

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    It may be due to oscillation. Do you have good power supply decoupling capacitors (typically 100nF) connected with short leads from pins 3 and 6 to ground?
     
  10. syee10

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    Yes i have connected the capacitor 0.1uF to the ground at pins 3 and 6. What you mean due to 'oscillation'?
     
  11. Ron H

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    Many analog circuits will oscillate if they do not have low power supply impedances. The capacitors provide this. See this article for more information.
    http://electronicdesign.com/article...ign-techniques-solve-high-speed-op-amp-s.aspx

    If you don't know what oscillation is, you are an electronics beginner, and analog multipliers will probably be a challenge for you.

    As others have said, your problem may be a loose connection.
     
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