AC sine wave to DC square conversion

Discussion in 'The Projects Forum' started by Chapalo, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Chapalo

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    Sep 20, 2010
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    Hello All,

    I'm another new guy on electronics. I read some threads similar to this one but the problem I have is that the input voltage will vary 3-6.8Vpp and I need to dismiss values from 0 to 4.6 Vpp.

    I though in using a Schmitt trigger but I think hysterisis can affect because it has to be precise.

    Someone recomended me the attached circuit but I'm confused on how to calculate the value of the resistors and if it is the best method I can use.

    I appreciate any help and ideas you can give me.
     
  2. Kermit2

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    If you have to be precise then you need a comparator and a REFERENCE voltage to compare against. Both the signal and the reference are inputs and when the signal exceeds the reference the output goes high(5V). Is that what you had in mind?
     
  3. tom66

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    I designed a circuit to do this for someone a while back. See this thread:
    http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/showthread.php?t=41955

    Adding a comparator to the positive rail and ANDing that with the zero crossing detector would then allow you to have an output at only a certain Vp-p.

     
  4. Chapalo

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    Hello,
    Thank you for the ideas you are giving to me.

    Kermit2. So, I can try with a voltage divider to set the reference. I'm I right?

    Tom66. I found an Image, this is the idea. Isn't it?
    (http://sound.westhost.com/appnotes/an005.htm figue.3)
     
  5. tom66

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    Here's the circuit I'm talking about: http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=22207&d=1283201125

    Basically, you would add a comparator and check if the +4.95V rail (or whatever voltage it is at) is above your threshold, and you could gate this with the zero crossing detector. If you want, I'll draw up a simulation.
     
  6. tom66

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    Here's a circuit that will do what you want:

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  7. Chapalo

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    I see!
    I'll do the simulation of both circuits you propose and let you know the results.
    Thank you very much for the ideas!
     
  8. JoeJester

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    So when the signal is less than 4.6V p-p or (2.3V zero-peak) you do not want an output.

    Look up a window comparator. That way you will get the output only when your parameters are exceeded. I'm assuming you need both the positive and negative triggers.
     
  9. Chapalo

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    Sep 20, 2010
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    Hello JoeJester,

    Actually, I just need the possitive but that is a great idea also for a different project I have in mind. Thanks!
     
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