A challenge for Audioguru

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by cumesoftware, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. cumesoftware

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    I think there is a time for everything. Now it is a time to stop hiding and prove my point. A fellow member of this forum that calls himself a guru, and yes, I'm referring to Audioguru, has been making detrimental reviews on my projects and solutions, effectively nulling all my work on AAC. He has been practising what I call destructive criticism, that is, negative remarks that lack presentation of any alternatives, viable or not. The problem is not just limited to AAC, but it is very present on other forums that he uses.

    I was a proud member of AAC but now I don't like what AAC has become. Hence the reason of my absence.

    I will propose a challenge to Audioguru. Since he appears to be a man of many theories but little practise (because I don't see any work of him and the threads he started can be counted with the fingers), I propose that Audioguru should post his projects onto "The Completed Projects Collection".

    I hope that someone understands that this is not a rant or a fight.

    Perhaps you want to start by posting that amplifier!?

    As for me, I won't post more projects on AAC, or update the existing ones, for a long time. I think my work here was discredited and I have nothing to add. The many hours I spent here are worthless, as my projects are not even viewed.

    I will also not contribute to AAC in a visible manner. I'll be just limited to this topic. I have other forums to watch and I'm sure my help here is not needed.

    Best regards!

    P.S.: I guess this topic will eventually get buried as many other topics. Hum! Is it really worth it? Or I'm just misusing my keyboard here?
     
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  2. bertus

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    Hello cumesoftware ,

    You are one of the few that was able to make completed, well documented projects.
    I must say I was happy to see them.
    I would not like to see you not here anymore.

    Bertus
     
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  3. cumesoftware

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    Thanks Bertus!

    I'm not leaving AAC forever. It is just for a big while, until AAC returns to what it was used to be. I don't blame Audioguru for what this forum has become. But I don't like to see members ranting at each other, topics being closed to prevent further ranting, etc. It seems some people don't understand that discussing is not a fight.

    Another reason is that I no longer see the point of posting my projects here. But I'm really glad you appreciate them.
     
  4. bribri

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    it takes all sorts.
     
  5. SgtWookie

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    AudioGuru is a rather persnickety old codger, and the Scrooge icon suits him particularly well.

    I have chastised him on numerous occasions as to his demeanor in the forums; they are here to educate and elucidate, not denigrate. However, he occasionally forgets himself and randoms off into inappropriateness.

    Despite his abrasive shortcomings, I'll suggest that overall, AudioGuru is an asset to the forums. Perhaps his mood would be better if he limited his responses to fewer forums/fewer threads. I myself get "testy" if trying to respond to too many threads.

    The "help requests" far outnumber the "helpers" who can actually provide useful responses. At least in the audio realm, AudioGuru is indeed quite helpful.

    Please do not misunderstand AudioGuru's responses to you as taking issue with you soley; there may have been issues with circuits that you posted to which we are not currently aware of.

    If one posts on a worldwide forum such as this, one has to be at least acceptable to a modicum of criticism.
     
  6. loosewire

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    You guys have sent me to off-topic,lets slow down and get to know
    Audioguru.Maybe we don't him as well as we think. I have done very
    for myself in the electronic business world. I have been self employed.
    I don't mind going to off-topic because I am not up to date on all the
    new stuff. There may be a few laptop owners that have never been
    employed in electronics or made a dime from electronics on this Forum.
    So lets be nice and allows for preceived failures of our guys. We really
    don't know every thing. Loosewire,wm
     
  7. cumesoftware

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    But you must not forget that every time he "helps", he only makes ridiculous comments and doesn't make suggestions to solve the problems. The last part is that differentiates constructive criticism from the rest. He referred to a DC protection crowbar as a dimmer, for God sake. I wanted to replace the DIAC so the crowbar would trigger at voltages lesser than 30V. He stated that, but didn't suggested any replacements for the DIAC. I saw other forums where he is a member and he is always the same: makes ridiculous comments and doesn't present solutions or alternatives. It is a shame, since he seems to have many knowledge to share. I thought that was what AAC was all about!

    Just a little comment of him about the Visaton FR 10 4OHM speaker (to prove my point):
    My YouTube videos prove otherwise. I know that 86dB is not good in terms of sensitivity, but the speaker is quite good in real life, though it has quite bad charts. This is a speaker that is much appraised in the DIY audio community! The general members that don't know the speaker will get the impression that the speaker is lousy. The same happens with my projects!

    You proved my last point. People get the impression that my circuits are wrong! Well, they work very well, and are way better than most commercial products out there. As you know, I'm a guy that always reworks a circuit when a defect, even if minor, is found. For instance, I have reworked Quattuor 4 times, only in the final stage.
     
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  8. jpanhalt

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    I don't think discussing a particular member in this forum is appropriate.

    I will add simply that I enjoy his posts. He is one of the few posters who I will always read regardless of the title of the thread.

    I just wish he would see the light and come to the US. ;)

    John
     
  9. happyganl

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    wa,its rare that great figures of AAC to talk here:p.Do you know me:D
     
  10. cumesoftware

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    I'm not "discussing" a member. If you appreciate him, that is good. He is really in need of some friends. What I'm doing is challenging him. If he can make better circuits that anyone else in the forum, he should post them. Don't you think? And I remind you that his undermining actions don't help AAC at all! Just to a search and you will see that half of his posts are quite abrasive, using SgtWookie words. I'm only doing some justice here.
     
  11. Georacer

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    Cumesoftware, If I know one thing, it is this:

    If you like what you do here in AAC, and take pleasure from it, then you should keep on doing it, no matter what you are told. The site has thousands of members and simulates real life, where skirmishes manifest all the time. But this is exactly why you should stand for your ideas; because they complete you and express you. Personally I can see that in your threads.

    If however the distaste you get from criticism overshadows the joy you get from posting, then it might be a good idea to abstain from the forum for a while.

    At any rate, please don't delete your projects, as I think they are tremendously representative of the AAC community work.
     
  12. Wendy

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    I never thought of your work as discredited, and enjoyed the reading of them. I don't think I would build them, mostly because I enjoy designing from scratch. But I don't think I could come close to their specs either.
     
  13. Lightfire

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    :O: Nothing. :) Please delete
    Oh, this is my first reply to the thread that I didn't started/owned. Isn't it?
     
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  14. jpanhalt

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    Those are criticisms, not challenges.

    Nope. This is not a contest. Score is not being kept. There may be many good reasons he would not want to post his personal circuits here.

    Another criticism, not challenge. You mean vigilante justice?

    John
     
  15. yasir_66

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    Audioguru is senior memeber i hope he will must sastify.
     
  16. bribri

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    i've only been around a short time.
    but i like audioguru's advice.
    i don't think ever i'd ever bother trying to convince him of anything.
    forums such as this are interesting, there's always going to be massive subjective differences... things which just come down to personal taste really.
    even radically divergent fundamental belief systems and ideological polarization don't have to get in the way of sharing some common interests... and that's saying something.
     
  17. cumesoftware

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    Yes, I admit that I'm criticizing him. But one thing is criticizing. Other thing is just mocking and bringing down. I admit that he helped a lot of people on AAC, but he never helped me. When you bring down someone and don't present him suggestions to improve, that is not being critic. I think one thing is saying, for instance "I suggest you to use bigger speakers with more bass", and other thing is asking if my walls are made or rice paper, of if the stickers will help the tiny drivers to produce some bass. At least I'm suggesting where he should improve: in attitude. And besides, many times he referred to me as "cum". That is disrespectful, to say the least.

    You are right. Never thought about that.

    No. I don't want to hang the guy in the middle of the square. I only think he should change his attitude. I redraw the challenge. My bad!

    That is reasonable, and it would be unwise for me to delete my projects. I will follow your advise.
     
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  18. jpanhalt

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    So this all boils down to him not helping you. Why didn't you PM him instead of opening a public critique?

    John
     
  19. cumesoftware

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    Because I was not aware of that fact you just pointed. I opened this thread not because of him, but because I see people refusing to help. Unfortunately, Audioguru was the only example I had at hand. Some members don't even admit silly questions from other members, and that is bad. But I guess it takes all sorts.
     
  20. Wendy

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    There is an old saying, Cream rises to the top. The folks who offer superior help do tend to stand out. I love watching other people design, it is one of several ways I learn!
     
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