555 Thobbing Led Issues

Discussion in 'The Projects Forum' started by theatrcymraeglampy, Sep 24, 2009.

  1. theatrcymraeglampy

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    Sep 22, 2009
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    Hi All,

    I wonder if somebody can help me see where i've gone wrong.

    I've followed a few guides on the web as to make a 555 LED "Throb" and this is what i've got so far.

    BC141-10 - Low Power LF NPN Transistor in TO39 Case
    555 Timer
    100v 100 uF
    33K Resistor

    Pin 1 - Ground
    Pin 2 - Connected to pin 6 & Base of BC141-10 NPN
    Pin 3 - 33K Resistor to base of NPN
    Pin 4 - Connected to pin 8 and 9V +
    Pin 5 - Not in use
    Pin 6 - Connected to pin 2 & Base of BC141-10 NPN
    Pin 7 - Not in use
    Pin 8 - Connected to pin 4 and 9V +

    100v 100uF connected + to base of NPN and - to negative rail.

    LED + from Emitter of NPN, and - from the negative rail.

    With no load on I can see 2v - 5v ramping up and down on my multimeter, but when a load is connected the voltage stays constant, for example with a blue led it stays on 3.3V, and a yellow led 3v.

    It fades up when turned on but then just holds.

    Can anybody suggest any ideas? I've used the bigger NPN as I wanted it to be capable of "throbbing" 10 Yellow LED's.

    I know not all the guides say to connect pin 2, to the base of the NPN as well, but without doing so I just get a constant voltage of 8V at the emitter of the NPN.

    Thanks very much.
     
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  2. mik3

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    Have a look here:

    http://www.eleinmec.com/article.asp?3

    Connect the base of your transistor to pin 3 via a 1K resistor, the emitter to ground and the LED between the collector and Vcc via an appropriate value resistor.
     
  3. theatrcymraeglampy

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    Sep 22, 2009
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    Thanks,

    With connecting the LED's directly to pin 8, what kind of current am I going to be limited too?

    10 Yellow LED's, are around 400mA.
     
  4. mik3

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    What is the exact part number of the 555 you are using?
     
  5. theatrcymraeglampy

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  6. mik3

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    If you find its datasheet in google you will read that it can supply 200mA on its output (pin 3).
     
  7. Wendy

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    We've got several other people with similar projects. Last I heard you wanted a comet tail, which has been done and I responded to. You didn't show a schematic on your first post on this thread, which leaves us all guessing as to what you're doing.

    If you want a throbbing LED (as in singular) it is much simplier.

    [​IMG]

    I did not include small resistors since these circuits will operate in the high side of the pot settings, so don't let the pots reach 0Ω.

    You can increase power savings by upping R1 and R2 to 100KΩ, and C1 and C2 to 22µF, and using a CMOS 555. R3 was selected for a green LED. Any general purpose PNP transistors will work, but don't use prepackaged Darlingtons, they need to be separate. Define your specific needs and we can show you other ways.

    Have you read this?

    LEDs, 555s, Flashers, and Light Chasers

    Bill's Index

    You will find another independent thread with vertually the same name in the char forum, it is one of several that have brought this up.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2009
  8. theatrcymraeglampy

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    Sep 22, 2009
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    Hi,

    Thanks to everybody for their replies so far, they’ve been really helpful.

    Apologies for posts in a few new topics in the past 48 hours, have a new project on that I need help in a few areas, but I’m really glad I found this forum!
     
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