And you thought that closing posts here on things like working with mains operated equipment and automotive were getting a little extreme.

In the Electronics Point forum, a thread was just closed because someone figured he was being electrocuted with 24vdc.
Max.

 

Since that is pretty much impossible except in an open body cavity situation, why close the post? I've seen worse ideas run their term, and I'm still new here.

ak

 

Maybe he was using a catheter......?

 

In the Electronics Point forum, a thread was just closed because someone figured he was being electrocuted with 24vdc.
Max.

Ok, now that you've got our interest -- How's about a link?

FWIW Many people equate 'electrocution' with (non-lethal) electric shock --- 'Tho even that would be a 'neat trick' at 24V DC...

Best Regards
HP

EDIT: I think this may be it?
http://www.electronicspoint.com/threads/electric-shock-from-24-volts.274235/

 

This was submitted by a guy who purchased his lovely wife a "pocket Taser" for their anniversary.
The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water...
http://www.rense.com/general69/pocket.htm

 

Oh, My F** Gaud, that is funny! Tears streaming down my face!

 

Oh, My F** Gaud, that is funny! Tears streaming down my face!

Still laughing here too...

 

I'd have probably closed the thread too!

It wasn't going anywhere?

 

I have an entire book on this topic.

Yes electric shock and electrocution are different.

Small voltages can cause shock/electrocution. The upper limit while still being contact safe is about 42 volts.

But human skin is like electrical insulation. IIRC it is about 500 ohms.

If it is punctured it is possible for very small voltages to produce enough current to shock or electrocute someone. If it is moist like sweaty or watery it has less resistance and the dynamic changes.

Whats super important for the question of electrocution is the path current takes through the body. And if it passes through the heart. I think it is only a few mA to cause defibrillation.

 

Thanks DNA for the link, and thanks Max for the post.
What a story, it almost diserves it's own Forum.
Reminds me of my first disassembly of a disposable camera.
I almost issed my pants...........
This guy (who wrote the article) probably got 10,000 times what I got.

How do the "bad guys" fight back, on the Police videos?
It should totally incapaciate them, right?

 

But human skin is like electrical insulation. IIRC it is about 500 ohms.

Try 1000x that

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=f...pical resistance human body skin ohms&f=false

That's up to date and well recognized information. Sure it gets complicated by variations like water and things.

Try it and let me know.

But don't try puncturing or with cuts, because I won't hear from you again, even if it is 24 volts.

 

Death and serious injury in industrial accidents where electricity is involved, the majority by far is cause by flash-over burns, not electrocution.
Max.

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=ftmPF2V7sVgC&lpg=PA60&dq=typical resistance human body skin ohms&pg=PA60#v=onepage&q=typical resistance human body skin ohms&f=false

I'm sorry but that is downright wrong. According to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health:

"Under dry conditions, the resistance offered by the human body may be as high as 100,000 Ohms. Wet or broken skin may drop the body's resistance to 1,000 Ohms," adding that "high-voltage electrical energy quickly breaks down human skin, reducing the human body's resistance to 500 Ohms."

 

Also note that the document you posted, @Thender21 , is 12 years old.

 

This was submitted by a guy who purchased his lovely wife a "pocket Taser" for their anniversary.
The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water...
http://www.rense.com/general69/pocket.htm

In the UK, a taser is considered under law to be a firearm.

 

And you thought that closing posts here on things like working with mains operated equipment and automotive were getting a little extreme.

In the Electronics Point forum, a thread was just closed because someone figured he was being electrocuted with 24vdc.
Max.

When I was younger, there were still a lot of old folk around who believed if you left a light switch on with no bulb in the socket - the electricity escaped into the room.

 

When I was younger, there were still a lot of old folk around who believed if you left a light switch on with no bulb in the socket - the electricity escaped into the room.

I met one early in my career, I oversaw the wiring of some old gas lit homes, one little old lady was concerned the electricity would leak out of the sockets overnight.
Max.

 

I have the handbook of electrical shock hazards at home and it is dedicated to the subject c 2005 i think second edition

 

The NFPA79 article 6.4.1.1 defines distribution extra low voltage at a nominal voltage of 30 Vrms or 60 Vdc ripple free for dry locations and 6 Vrms or 15 Vdc in all other cases.
UL standard 508A article 43 (Table 43.1) defines 0-20V peak/ 5A or 20.1-42.4V peak/ 100VA as Low-Voltage Limited Energy circuits.
These do not usually have to conform to any safety standard.
Max.