I have a small electric vehicle for my son that has essentially two circuits 24V (for the motor controller/motors) and 12V circuit (lights, horn, and microcontroller). I have 2 12V - 22AH batteries and currently have a 100amp battery disconnect key switch between the 2 batteries with a 35amp breaker. The 24V circuit peaks at around 32Amps and about 15-25amps continuous. The 12V circuit is only 1-3 amps continuous (if lights are on or off they are high power led's using a Flex block 750mA constant current driver) and around 4-5 amps if he hits the horn. I currently have it wired like in the diagram below however on the ACC circuit when the 100Amp key switch is off I am getting a 12V reverse voltage on the ACC circuit. My assumption is it is back feeding through the Sabertooth motor controller somehow.
The question is what is the best solution to fix this because I know what I am doing right now is not good. I was thinking of getting a DC to DC step down converter but am hesitant because some cost $20 and others are $200 and the specs are close and I am not sure why. The other option I thought of was using a high current diode and just tap off the + and - of one battery so I would not get reverse voltages.
The other part that makes this more complicated other than the High currents is I have the disconnect in place between the 2 batteries for 2 reasons 1 to shut off power and 2 so I can charge the batteries in parallel using a 6A Schumacher 12V charger. I do this by having a 4 pin connector on the vehicle with one wire going to each battery terminal. Then on the Charger I have a 4 pin connector as well but the 2 positives are tied together and the 2 negatives are tied together thus putting the batteries in parallel when this is plugged in. I am doing this because I am drawing the 12V circuit off one battery so then putting the charging circuit in parallel should even the batteries back out during the charge/trickle charge and also I was hoping to not have to use two chargers or to have to charge each on separately.
This brings me to question 2, this charging method is fine and dandy and works as long as that key switch is off. If for some reason that switch was turned on while charging it would basically cause a direct short across both battery terminals. I know this and I always hide the key when I am charging it but my son does not and my fear is someday this could happen. With that in mind can you think of a way I could wire this using a 30Amp relay or switch or something that would make it so there is no way the two circuits could be complete at the same time? It would be nice if it worked automatically, meaning you plug in the charger and it disconnects the main supply line somehow. I know I could just put a DPST switch on their rated for 30A that in one direction is for charging and the other is for running mode.
On this same note I was reading some posts on here and SgtWookie recommended a Schottky diode on each battery terminal to prevent High currents from flowing from one battery to the other. I wanted to see if I should do that as well in my set up? Currently my charging wires are 16AWG and are roughly 2-3 feet long so they will not like anything more than say 10A.
I know that's a lot of info but any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I know enough about electronics to get myself in trouble but am pretty green as far as most members on this form.
I did attach a basic wire diagram(GatorControlPower.jpg) one that shows my current setup base power wiring as well as my more detailed ones.
The question is what is the best solution to fix this because I know what I am doing right now is not good. I was thinking of getting a DC to DC step down converter but am hesitant because some cost $20 and others are $200 and the specs are close and I am not sure why. The other option I thought of was using a high current diode and just tap off the + and - of one battery so I would not get reverse voltages.
The other part that makes this more complicated other than the High currents is I have the disconnect in place between the 2 batteries for 2 reasons 1 to shut off power and 2 so I can charge the batteries in parallel using a 6A Schumacher 12V charger. I do this by having a 4 pin connector on the vehicle with one wire going to each battery terminal. Then on the Charger I have a 4 pin connector as well but the 2 positives are tied together and the 2 negatives are tied together thus putting the batteries in parallel when this is plugged in. I am doing this because I am drawing the 12V circuit off one battery so then putting the charging circuit in parallel should even the batteries back out during the charge/trickle charge and also I was hoping to not have to use two chargers or to have to charge each on separately.
This brings me to question 2, this charging method is fine and dandy and works as long as that key switch is off. If for some reason that switch was turned on while charging it would basically cause a direct short across both battery terminals. I know this and I always hide the key when I am charging it but my son does not and my fear is someday this could happen. With that in mind can you think of a way I could wire this using a 30Amp relay or switch or something that would make it so there is no way the two circuits could be complete at the same time? It would be nice if it worked automatically, meaning you plug in the charger and it disconnects the main supply line somehow. I know I could just put a DPST switch on their rated for 30A that in one direction is for charging and the other is for running mode.
On this same note I was reading some posts on here and SgtWookie recommended a Schottky diode on each battery terminal to prevent High currents from flowing from one battery to the other. I wanted to see if I should do that as well in my set up? Currently my charging wires are 16AWG and are roughly 2-3 feet long so they will not like anything more than say 10A.
I know that's a lot of info but any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated. I know enough about electronics to get myself in trouble but am pretty green as far as most members on this form.
I did attach a basic wire diagram(GatorControlPower.jpg) one that shows my current setup base power wiring as well as my more detailed ones.
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