12V to 48V power supply of up to 16A

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  1. crazybuoy

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    I have 12V , 16A from ATX power supply by collecting all yellow cables and same number of black cables on the other side.

    I want to convert it to 20, 25, 30.....48V and the input current (16A) should not be decreased, it means, there should be 12-16A with output voltage.

    I have searched schematics a lot but could not decide which one to use.

    Please suggest me any circuit as small as possible.
     
  2. wayneh

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    No such thing exists. You cannot create power. At best you can convert voltages and currents with minimal losses of power.
     
  3. dendad

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    wayneh is correct. You cannot create extra power.
    In simple terms, If you have a 12V 16A supply, it is able to supply 12V x 16A = 192 Watts.
    You are wanting to convert the 12V to 48V. There are switch mode boost circuits that will do it but that will only give you 4A. (192/48=4).
    Likewise..
    192/20=9.6W
    192/25=7.7A
    192/30=6.4A
    As you see, while the voltage goes up, the current goes down.
    A 48V 16A supply needs to be rated at about 770Watts.
     
  4. crazybuoy

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    Got the point.

    At 48V, 3-4A is enough for me. You can suggest any Switch Mode Boost Circuit as small as possible. I also need variable voltage between 12-48.

    Thanks
     
  5. dendad

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  6. crazybuoy

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    I want to create a similar circuit for this purpose on my own. Please suggest one or two.
     
  7. crazybuoy

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    Please check this variable power supply circuit.

    Can it provide output of 48V, 3-4A when using 12V 16A as input?
     
  8. dendad

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    No. That circuit cannot.
    That is a very simple circuit that can only drop the voltage and it is unregulated. Also it would waste a a lot of power as heat.
    What you are trying to do is not as simple. Look at ..
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_converter

    You will need an inductor that is switched to create the voltage boost and a control circuit plus quite a bit of other stuff.
    All this is possible to make but if you are new to electronics it is quite a challenge. Think lots of smoke!

    Here are some app note to start the calculations...
    www.ti.com/lit/an/slva372c/slva372c.pdf
    www.ti.com/lit/an/snva731/snva731.pdf

    And some further reading...
    http://www.ti.com/analog/docs/analo...&rootFamilyId=64&familyId=752&docCategoryId=1

    www.linear.com/docs/26920

    This is just from a Google search and I've not looked into them all as yet.

    This is a good project for you to try but don't hook anything of value on as a load until you have it well working and stable. There are a lot of traps to building your own switch mode power supplies, and more so as the power goes up.

    Have a search on Texas Instruments site, Linear technology, Maxim and ST amongst others.
     
  9. tcmtech

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    You will be time and money ahead to just buy a regular 48 volt SMPS unit and modify its feedback loop so it can be adjusted to putout lower voltages.
     
  10. crazybuoy

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    Hi,

    I found this simple circuit to convert 12V to 48V. Is there any change possible in circuit to make it VARIABLE between 12-48.

    Thanks
     
  11. Dodgydave

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    No, that circuit is a Flyback oscillator with a pulsed output.

    You're better getting a 50V switch mode psu, and buck converter chip like Lm2596.
     
  12. dendad

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