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10-03-2010, 11:12 PM
 notoriusjt2 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 209
half-wave rectifier with delay angle

it cant be this easy... what formula should I be using?
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10-03-2010, 11:44 PM
 R!f@@ Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Euphoria.., The One & Only {GMT +5} Posts: 6,614 Blog Entries: 3

Delay angle or not. A resistor will dissipate power according to the applied RMS Voltage
Formula is P=V^2/R
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#3
10-03-2010, 11:54 PM
 notoriusjt2 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 209

in the book it gives me these equations....

Vm=Vpeak
then it says to use the P=Vrms^2/R

but it gives me no formulas that have anything to do with current.
are you sure thats still a valid answer?
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10-04-2010, 12:20 AM
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by notoriusjt2 in the book it gives me these equations.... Vm=Vpeak then it says to use the P=Vrms^2/R but it gives me no formulas that have anything to do with current. are you sure thats still a valid answer?
What does that equation look like.
Same one I gave u...forget the current. It is their to confuse newbies like you, and it is doing a pretty good job too.
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#5
10-04-2010, 12:28 AM
 notoriusjt2 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 209

haha i gotcha, it is very confusing. that Vrms calculation takes into account for the delay angle. alpha=delay angle

so the delay angle has nothing to do with it? it doesnt even matter?
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10-04-2010, 12:31 AM
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Delay angle matters when the load is Reactive, Like Capacitive or Inductive.

Besides, ur Q, says average current.
Average values are not used for power calculation. Didn't u know that?
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10-04-2010, 02:13 AM
 notoriusjt2 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 209

i went with answer 'E' and it was incorrect

i know that delay angle needs to be accounted for somewhere
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10-04-2010, 03:01 AM
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shoooooot!!!. I missed the half wave rectifier part..
That was really clumsy of me...
Hold on, let me see
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10-04-2010, 03:12 AM
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Answer is way wrong. Since the AC is rectified we have to find the voltage seen by the load. which is lower than Vrms.
In the formula shows Vo, is any other formula given for Vo

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Is this q related to practical application. The delay angle is the SCR firing angle to rectify the AC. You have to find out Vo using a scope if this is practical based.
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Last edited by R!f@@; 10-04-2010 at 03:40 AM.
#10
10-04-2010, 05:25 AM
 The Electrician Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,690

You must first find the conduction interval that will give an average current of 2.5 amps into a 30Ω resistor.

Having found that conduction interval you then integrate instantaneous product of voltage and current over the conduction interval. That will give you the power absorbed by the resistor.

Alternatively, having found the relevant conduction interval, you could calculate the RMS value of that voltage coming out of the controlled rectifier, and use that value in the familiar formula P = E^2/R. The result is the same.

The first attached image shows the details. The second shows the RMS calculation mentioned in the paragraph above.
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