Somewhere we went from safety to this...
There are a lot of projects with cars that are legal and safe. I strongly disagree with the above as a matter of policy and I was not part of any such discussion.
This is not meant to start a flame war, but I think a major policy discussion is needed.
In the USA is it legal to build a car from the ground up, as long as codes are met it can drive on the streets, get a title, the whole bit. I'm not sure where it is illegal to modify your turn signals or brake lights, but given the above statement is true it is a matter of course that lights are part of the package. The taxi company in New York that invented and added a third stop light over the trunk that is now standard would have a thread asking for advice closed according to that logic.
I have no problem with the obvious stuff. Emission controls, devices to keep the car running with the key off, HHO, and other mods are clear safety hazards.
Turn signals, stop lights, and running lights are a lot more problematic to me. It is completely legal in the US to add lights to your vehicle. In the case of an accident (which happened to me less than a year ago) you must fix these to be street legal. When I had some idiot rear ended me because a bicyclist didn't have lights and I came to a full stop I had to make a temporary fix until I could get it done professionally several months later. We have arbitrarily banned these threads, which I strongly disagree with. Since the mods seem to be in favor of this I will concede it, but there are other issues involved too.
As I interpret the current policy that seems to be jelling discussing a car radio would be not allowed. How about a clock (one of the early things I did to my first new car in the 70's)? Given how much time we spend in a car there are a lot of things that will fall through the cracks if we go to an extreme stance.
Enough! If this is going to be policy on this site it needs to be in the rules. It needs some discussion, as it has gone overboard. When a OP brings up an automotive subject first find out what they are trying to do before declaring the project persona non grata.
Sorry Wookie, but this has been in the back of my mind since we started this. I do not post where I am not comfortable or qualified, but we have gone to an extreme I do not like.We stopped giving advice on automotive projects several weeks ago, in light of numerous problems that have surfaced.
We're not automotive engineers, and we don't know if you're ASE certified to work on automotive projects.
So, due to safety and legal issues, we stopped.
There are a lot of projects with cars that are legal and safe. I strongly disagree with the above as a matter of policy and I was not part of any such discussion.
This is not meant to start a flame war, but I think a major policy discussion is needed.
In the USA is it legal to build a car from the ground up, as long as codes are met it can drive on the streets, get a title, the whole bit. I'm not sure where it is illegal to modify your turn signals or brake lights, but given the above statement is true it is a matter of course that lights are part of the package. The taxi company in New York that invented and added a third stop light over the trunk that is now standard would have a thread asking for advice closed according to that logic.
I have no problem with the obvious stuff. Emission controls, devices to keep the car running with the key off, HHO, and other mods are clear safety hazards.
Turn signals, stop lights, and running lights are a lot more problematic to me. It is completely legal in the US to add lights to your vehicle. In the case of an accident (which happened to me less than a year ago) you must fix these to be street legal. When I had some idiot rear ended me because a bicyclist didn't have lights and I came to a full stop I had to make a temporary fix until I could get it done professionally several months later. We have arbitrarily banned these threads, which I strongly disagree with. Since the mods seem to be in favor of this I will concede it, but there are other issues involved too.
As I interpret the current policy that seems to be jelling discussing a car radio would be not allowed. How about a clock (one of the early things I did to my first new car in the 70's)? Given how much time we spend in a car there are a lot of things that will fall through the cracks if we go to an extreme stance.
Enough! If this is going to be policy on this site it needs to be in the rules. It needs some discussion, as it has gone overboard. When a OP brings up an automotive subject first find out what they are trying to do before declaring the project persona non grata.