Hello everyone,
My screen name here is williamj but in the physical world everyone just calls me Bill. I am a retired (medical disability really, (bum ticker)) industrial electrician / mechanic. I covered most everything in my job, from fuses and fuse holders to gears and gear cases, to hydraulics, pneumatics, welding and buildings and grounds, I did it all, and boy did my back hurt! As far as the electrician part goes I am most comfortable with motor controls, 3f AC, utilizing relay logic (old tech). I know very little about solid-state and even less about integrated circuitry.
I believe I have the expertise, experience and tools necessary to tackle specific projects. What I lack is space, I have no garage, attic, basement or outbuilding to set up any kind of workshop what so ever. And in this day and age, its a sad commentary that, if you leave something alone for very long it will inevitably grow legs and walk away. However
Health and logistics not withstanding, I continuously conjure up wanna do projects just to keep my mind from turning to mush. Hence my coming to your fair community for assistance.
Since my joining you community, I have spent the last few days perusing past and present posts related to (what I believe is related) my project. Speaking of which, my current project (conceptual at present) proposes a coil controlled permanent magnet DC motor.
Permanent magnets are adhered to a disk that is keyed to a shaft (shaft and disk are free to rotate). On both sides of the magnet disk are fixed coil plates. The coil plates are made up of coil sets (Two coils per set, one coil on one plate and one coil, directly opposite, on the other plate. The coils are actually electromagnets, its just easier to type coil than it is to type electromagnet.) The coils are wired so that the magnetic flux, induced by each coil, is opposing (North to South and/or South to North).
As a magnet rotates and passes through the paired coils of the coil set an attract/repulse magnetic flux influence is placed on the permanent magnet. As the magnet approaches the coil set, the coil voltage polarity is such that the magnetic flux is opposite to that of the magnet thus inducing an attractive influence on the permanent magnet. As the magnet passes by the coil set the coil voltage polarity is reversed thus inducing a repulsive influence on the permanent magnet. And the sequence continues as long as there is current flow through the coils. Each coil set is controlled by it's own cintrol circuit.
The difficulty I am having is trying to figure out the control circuit itself. The circuit requires one input and two outputs. The input would be from an optic sensor that is triggered by a light source passing through the magnet disk at predetermined points.
The optic sensor in turn triggers a flip-flop circuit that controls a pair of latching circuits. Each latching circuit in turn controls a single output (one of two). Each output controls a pair of SCRs that control current flow to the coil set. In one pair of SCRs the voltage polarity would be Positive Negative and in the other pair of SCRs the voltage polarity would be Negative Positive. The two pairs of SCRs thus control magnetic flux polarity.
The sequence of events would be something like this:
Optic sensor de-activated - coil set pulls magnet towards itself
Optic sensor activated - coil set de-energized, polarity reversed
Optic sensor de-activated - coil set pushes magnet away from itself
This is just a general idea of how the control would sequence. As everything is dependent on the size of the permanent magnets used, no specific component requirements are needed at this point in time.
I am currently trying to upload drawings and diagrams (please forgive if symbols and wiring is incorrect) to a temporary website to try and clarify what it is that I have in mind. Once I get it figured out, (grumble grumble, moan moan, bitch bitch) I will post the URL. I think in pictures, trying to describe what I see in my mind to someone else is a daunting task indeed (hopefully this will help). Although the attempt is there, communication has never been one of my strong points.
As I do not know which components would be required or how they would be connected I am asking for assistance. If someone could sketch up a simple diagram (in general, so I could get to know, understand and follow current flow in the control circuit) I would be extremely grateful.
After reading all the posts (those that I have actually read, not all) it is readily apparent that the level of expertise here is, to say the least, extremely high. In return for your valuable assistance I would offer what knowledge and expertise that I have, you have but to ask.
thank you in advance,
williamj
factoid:
when it hits the fan it is NEVER evenly distributed.
My screen name here is williamj but in the physical world everyone just calls me Bill. I am a retired (medical disability really, (bum ticker)) industrial electrician / mechanic. I covered most everything in my job, from fuses and fuse holders to gears and gear cases, to hydraulics, pneumatics, welding and buildings and grounds, I did it all, and boy did my back hurt! As far as the electrician part goes I am most comfortable with motor controls, 3f AC, utilizing relay logic (old tech). I know very little about solid-state and even less about integrated circuitry.
I believe I have the expertise, experience and tools necessary to tackle specific projects. What I lack is space, I have no garage, attic, basement or outbuilding to set up any kind of workshop what so ever. And in this day and age, its a sad commentary that, if you leave something alone for very long it will inevitably grow legs and walk away. However
Health and logistics not withstanding, I continuously conjure up wanna do projects just to keep my mind from turning to mush. Hence my coming to your fair community for assistance.
Since my joining you community, I have spent the last few days perusing past and present posts related to (what I believe is related) my project. Speaking of which, my current project (conceptual at present) proposes a coil controlled permanent magnet DC motor.
Permanent magnets are adhered to a disk that is keyed to a shaft (shaft and disk are free to rotate). On both sides of the magnet disk are fixed coil plates. The coil plates are made up of coil sets (Two coils per set, one coil on one plate and one coil, directly opposite, on the other plate. The coils are actually electromagnets, its just easier to type coil than it is to type electromagnet.) The coils are wired so that the magnetic flux, induced by each coil, is opposing (North to South and/or South to North).
As a magnet rotates and passes through the paired coils of the coil set an attract/repulse magnetic flux influence is placed on the permanent magnet. As the magnet approaches the coil set, the coil voltage polarity is such that the magnetic flux is opposite to that of the magnet thus inducing an attractive influence on the permanent magnet. As the magnet passes by the coil set the coil voltage polarity is reversed thus inducing a repulsive influence on the permanent magnet. And the sequence continues as long as there is current flow through the coils. Each coil set is controlled by it's own cintrol circuit.
The difficulty I am having is trying to figure out the control circuit itself. The circuit requires one input and two outputs. The input would be from an optic sensor that is triggered by a light source passing through the magnet disk at predetermined points.
The optic sensor in turn triggers a flip-flop circuit that controls a pair of latching circuits. Each latching circuit in turn controls a single output (one of two). Each output controls a pair of SCRs that control current flow to the coil set. In one pair of SCRs the voltage polarity would be Positive Negative and in the other pair of SCRs the voltage polarity would be Negative Positive. The two pairs of SCRs thus control magnetic flux polarity.
The sequence of events would be something like this:
Optic sensor de-activated - coil set pulls magnet towards itself
Optic sensor activated - coil set de-energized, polarity reversed
Optic sensor de-activated - coil set pushes magnet away from itself
This is just a general idea of how the control would sequence. As everything is dependent on the size of the permanent magnets used, no specific component requirements are needed at this point in time.
I am currently trying to upload drawings and diagrams (please forgive if symbols and wiring is incorrect) to a temporary website to try and clarify what it is that I have in mind. Once I get it figured out, (grumble grumble, moan moan, bitch bitch) I will post the URL. I think in pictures, trying to describe what I see in my mind to someone else is a daunting task indeed (hopefully this will help). Although the attempt is there, communication has never been one of my strong points.
As I do not know which components would be required or how they would be connected I am asking for assistance. If someone could sketch up a simple diagram (in general, so I could get to know, understand and follow current flow in the control circuit) I would be extremely grateful.
After reading all the posts (those that I have actually read, not all) it is readily apparent that the level of expertise here is, to say the least, extremely high. In return for your valuable assistance I would offer what knowledge and expertise that I have, you have but to ask.
thank you in advance,
williamj
factoid:
when it hits the fan it is NEVER evenly distributed.