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Old 08-30-2009, 09:54 PM
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Nice try. Meiyer's work was a scam. Every bit of stuff following Stan's garbage has simply elaborated on the very vague stuff he did illustrate. But it's all still a scam.

There is some considerable history on this board with most of the free energy crowd. None of the claims has ever had a device to demo, or a measured test. We really do not need to read carefully to know what is being presented - just more of the same.

The following is a canned message with links to almost all of the threads on Meiyer and free energy. How about you read our side of it?

The links below are a representative but not exhaustive list of the discussions we have had to recent date about electrolysis and devices that are supposed to increase the efficiency of that process. While the list is not complete, I would think that the subject has been dealt with to exhaustion. This subject is not likely to open up again until someone has some concrete results to show.

Please take the time to read through these threads. You will have a much better idea of what is likely or possible to do. If our various responses seem discouraging, consider that we do have a great deal of experience in the area of electronics. We have a pretty good idea of what is possible. The same may be said for the impossible.

Please note that we are willing to help build and refine circuits for such purpose, while remaining skeptical about the ultimate outcome. We are here to help spread knowledge around, not to protect against progress that will cost oil interests money. We have not been coopted by some alphabetical government agency.

Keep in mind that any device that promises an output greater than the input is quite extraordinary. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. To date, we have claims, but not one bit of proof. We will not function as a sounding board for you to advance your beliefs. A claim to have seen one demonstrated is not proof, nor is a claim of a mileage increase.

We are aware that videos claiming to demonstrate various "free energy" or "over unity" devices exist in profusion. Take the time to watch a movie such as "Jurrasic Park" or one of the "Matrix" series. Think of how nicely presented and realistic the effects were in the movies. Imagine how hard it is to produce a video that can show literally anything happening. That does not constitute proof of anything at all. Despite any number of visits by Godzilla, Tokyo seems to have suffered little if any actual damage.

Unless you have some actual results to share, please don't expect us to waste further time with this subject. Circuirty is always interesting. It would be good to be able to run confirming experiments.

Links to threads:

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=14396

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=14535

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=14064

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=11879

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=13206

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=15539

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=14794

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=14933

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=13207

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=15043

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=15713

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=15859

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=12711

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=16792

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=12643


Some of the more recent threads have been most illuminating:


http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=18833

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=17319

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/showthread.php?t=9812

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=18547

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=19717

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=19859

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=26080

http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=26131
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