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Jim Thompson
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 Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 20:07:31 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
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"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:31:17 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:19 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
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IN the over forty years I have used lead bearing solder, I have never
seen
or
heard of anyone affected by the stuff. We all learned how to handle it.
Clarence
You hold the part with your left hand, the iron with your right,
and the solder in your teeth.
What an IDIOT! You deserve to have your brain removed, it doesn't
function!
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Yes. Hold either the part or the iron in your teeth; _never_ the
solder.
Buy a good circuit vise that can be tilted, rotated, etc. Best thing
I ever spent a lot of money on... had it now for probably 30 years.
...Jim Thompson
Sanity at last!
I have three, on just for surface boards, one very small and one universal
holder / vise. Also, some times you clip the iron in place and feed the
solder, rolled into a plastic tube, to a part held in place with tweezers.
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Surgical "clamps" (hemostats??) are handy circuit tools also.
...Jim Thompson
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R.Lewis
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:19 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
news:f8b945bc.0410021013.6eb3ab20@posting.google.com...
IN the over forty years I have used lead bearing solder, I have never
seen
or
heard of anyone affected by the stuff. We all learned how to handle
it.
Clarence
You hold the part with your left hand, the iron with your right,
and the solder in your teeth.
What an IDIOT! You deserve to have your brain removed, it doesn't
function!
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Yes. Hold either the part or the iron in your teeth; _never_ the
solder.
*Only* because you cannot get the full reel of solder in your mouth you have |
to cut off smaller pieces to use - which is wasteful when they get too short
to reach the workpiece where you can see it.
However where cost is not an issue and some of the solder can be wasted (do
not swallow it - in large lumps it is liable to cause a serious
constipation) I recomment the multicore solders: 3 cores of rosin, one or
more cores of flavouring.
Raspberry is ever popular although not my personal favourite.
Many experienced 'tronics guru's swear by the deluxe solder with an
anti-bacterial mouthwash in (one of) the stripes.
Low activity rosin is recommended for those with many older type dental
fillings. |
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John Fields
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:12:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Surgical "clamps" (hemostats??) are handy circuit tools also.
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In addition to their primary function; roach clips...
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Clarence
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:51 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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"R.Lewis" <h.lewis-not this bit-@connect-2.co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:jd0ul0p3e0eu5m14vvl6nulfjdeupl0kcc@4ax.com...
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:19 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
news:f8b945bc.0410021013.6eb3ab20@posting.google.com...
IN the over forty years I have used lead bearing solder,
I have never seen or heard of anyone affected by the stuff.
We all learned how to handle it.
Clarence
You hold the part with your left hand, the iron with your right,
and the solder in your teeth.
What an IDIOT!
You deserve to have your brain removed, it doesn't function!
---
Yes. Hold either the part or the iron in your teeth; _never_ the
solder.
*Only* because you cannot get the full reel of solder in your
mouth you have to cut off smaller pieces to use - which is
wasteful when they get too short to reach the workpiece where
you can see it.
However where cost is not an issue and some of the solder
can be wasted (do not swallow it - in large lumps it is
liable to cause a serious constipation) I recomment the
multicore solders: 3 cores of rosin, one or more cores of
flavouring.
Raspberry is ever popular although not my personal favourite.
Many experienced 'tronics guru's swear by the deluxe
solder with an anti-bacterial mouthwash in (one of)
the stripes.
Low activity rosin is recommended for those with many
older type dental fillings.
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I presume you THINK your being funny. You failed to Make the point. Or are
you suggesting that YOU are the one that was affected? |
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Jim Thompson
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:36 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 15:51:50 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:12:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:
Surgical "clamps" (hemostats??) are handy circuit tools also.
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In addition to their primary function; roach clips...
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Ah, Yes! ROTFLMAO!
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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Dbowey
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:42 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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jeffm posted:
<< >IN the over forty years I have used lead bearing solder, I have never seen
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| Quote: | heard of anyone affected by the stuff. We all learned how to handle it.
Clarence
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You hold the part with your left hand, the iron with your right, and the solder
in your teeth.
That worked well for me over the past 50 years. Is there any other method that
doesn't require three hands?
Don |
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Dbowey
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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Jim posted:
<< On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 14:31:17 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:19 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
news:f8b945bc.0410021013.6eb3ab20@posting.google.com...
IN the over forty years I have used lead bearing solder, I have never seen
or
heard of anyone affected by the stuff. We all learned how to handle it.
Clarence
You hold the part with your left hand, the iron with your right,
and the solder in your teeth.
What an IDIOT! You deserve to have your brain removed, it doesn't function!
---
Yes. Hold either the part or the iron in your teeth; _never_ the
solder.
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Buy a good circuit vise that can be tilted, rotated, etc. Best thing
I ever spent a lot of money on... had it now for probably 30 years.
I have a couple of those too, but my jaw muscles cramp too soon due to the
weight.
Don |
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JeffM
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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| Quote: | I recomment the multicore solders:
3 cores of rosin, one or more cores of flavouring.
Raspberry is ever popular although not my personal favourite.
R.Lewis
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Mmmm. Raspberry.
http://www.jvibe.com/homer/homer/homermatzo.gif |
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Sir Charles W. Shults III
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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If it upsets you so greatly, Clarence, you could always wrap a large
loop of the solder tightly around your neck and feed it into the active area
by leaning forward.
Cheers!
Sir Charles W. Shults III, K. B. B.
Xenotech Research
321-206-1840 |
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Clarence
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:11 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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"Sir Charles W. Shults III" <NOaichipSPAM@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | If it upsets you so greatly, Clarence, you could always wrap a large
loop of the solder tightly around your neck and feed it into the active area
by leaning forward.
Cheers!
Sir Charles W. Shults III, K. B. B.
Xenotech Research
321-206-1840
I have no problem soldering. I even know how. It is ignorance that I find |
upsetting, along with pride in that ignorance.
I long ago learned that if you put the solder in a tube and attach a ring to
the tube, you can apply solder to the work by moving one finger. While holding
the component with tweezers. The iron is held in the other hand. |
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R.Lewis
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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"Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote in message
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"R.Lewis" <h.lewis-not this bit-@connect-2.co.uk> wrote in message
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"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 19:15:19 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
"JeffM" <jeffm_@email.com> wrote in message
news:f8b945bc.0410021013.6eb3ab20@posting.google.com...
IN the over forty years I have used lead bearing solder,
I have never seen or heard of anyone affected by the stuff.
We all learned how to handle it.
Clarence
You hold the part with your left hand, the iron with your right,
and the solder in your teeth.
What an IDIOT!
You deserve to have your brain removed, it doesn't function!
---
Yes. Hold either the part or the iron in your teeth; _never_ the
solder.
*Only* because you cannot get the full reel of solder in your
mouth you have to cut off smaller pieces to use - which is
wasteful when they get too short to reach the workpiece where
you can see it.
However where cost is not an issue and some of the solder
can be wasted (do not swallow it - in large lumps it is
liable to cause a serious constipation) I recomment the
multicore solders: 3 cores of rosin, one or more cores of
flavouring.
Raspberry is ever popular although not my personal favourite.
Many experienced 'tronics guru's swear by the deluxe
solder with an anti-bacterial mouthwash in (one of)
the stripes.
Low activity rosin is recommended for those with many
older type dental fillings.
I presume you THINK your being funny. You failed to Make the point. Or
are
you suggesting that YOU are the one that was affected?
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You may scoff now - but just wait and see in the future.
They scoffed at the chocolate aeroplane at the beginning.
Now they are eating their words. |
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Clarence
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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"R.Lewis" <h.lewis-not this bit-@connect-2.co.uk> wrote in message
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snip
I presume you THINK your being funny. You failed to Make the point. Or
are
you suggesting that YOU are the one that was affected?
You may scoff now - but just wait and see in the future.
They scoffed at the chocolate aeroplane at the beginning.
Now they are eating their words.
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So you have nothing of value to say and THINK your funny?
As usual, your wrong!
There are a few groups who are using the rarely reported cases of someone
actually eating old lead paint and haveing symptoms to give them some supposed
credibility. Other than the political scare tactics there is few actual reports
of anyone affected by "exposure to lead" in any form, and no reports of ill
effects to exposure to solid metallic lead as used in solder. The vapors are
flux, not lead which only becomes a hot Simi-liquid. (Plastic) No you should
not inhale flux fumes, nor tars and nicotine from tobacco!
This is a phony issue, not a real threat to any large numbers of people! |
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E. Rosten
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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R.Lewis wrote:
| Quote: | *Only* because you cannot get the full reel of solder in your mouth you have
to cut off smaller pieces to use - which is wasteful when they get too short
to reach the workpiece where you can see it.
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No. The main reason for not holding the solder in your teeth is so that
you can hold an air extraction tube in your mouth. Just sucking clears
away all those nasty smoky fumes which block your view. Besides, how do
you spool the reel of solder in your mouth (unless you have a lot more
dextirity than me).
| Quote: | However where cost is not an issue and some of the solder can be wasted (do
not swallow it - in large lumps it is liable to cause a serious
constipation) I recomment the multicore solders: 3 cores of rosin, one or
more cores of flavouring.
Raspberry is ever popular although not my personal favourite.
Many experienced 'tronics guru's swear by the deluxe solder with an
anti-bacterial mouthwash in (one of) the stripes.
Low activity rosin is recommended for those with many older type dental
fillings.
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Trouble is, that in large quantities, the antibacterial core can harm
the useful bacteria in your mouth and gut. If you use this, you need to
remove the residue by rinsing once daily with mercury, or better yet,
cyanide. This will pretty much eliminate all problems you will
experience from having a bacterial imbalance.
-Ed
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Jamie
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| Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 1:15 am Post subject: Re: Soldering unleaded components |
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JeffM wrote:
| Quote: | IN the over forty years I have used lead bearing solder, I have never seen or
heard of anyone affected by the stuff. We all learned how to handle it.
Clarence
You hold the part with your left hand, the iron with your right,
and the solder in your teeth.
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LOL!, I like that !  ) |
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